The measure of a church, the character of a church is not made known, by how well it entertains young people; the character of a church is made known by how well it embraces old people. The character of a church is not how well it can capture the lighthearted, who are alive and young; its how well it can capture and hold the heart broken...the grieving. How does it deal with the suffering? How does it deal old age? How does it deal with cancer How does it deal with love?...loving people at the worst times of life? That's the measure of a church. Anybody can draw a crowd; anybody can put on an event. Anybody can do a rock concert and attract young people who are just looking for the next gig. The measure of a church is, how does it sustain relationships with people all the way to the grave...fully embrace them, love them, right unto death. That's the measure of a church... The measure of this church can not be known by sitting here on a Sunday and listening to this that's going on up here... The measure of this church is seen in the hardest times of life, the most grievous times of life, the agonies of life, long drawn-out slow deaths or terrible accidental deaths; and how this church embraces people at the low points and the hard points of life. That's the measure of a church.

John MacArthur

CATEGORY	CUISINE	TAG	YIELD
Dairy, Vegetables, Eggs, Grains		Breads	2	Loaves

INGREDIENTS

1	c	Starter
4	c	All-purpose flour, divided
3	c	Sugar, divided
2 1/2	c	Milk, divided
1	c	Vegetable oil
3		Eggs
1	ts	Vanilla extract
1	c	Chopped nuts
2	ts	Sinnamon
1 1/2	ts	Baking powder
1/2	ts	Salt
1/2	ts	Baking soda
1	pk	Lg. instant vanilla pudding
		Solid shortening
		Cinnamon sugar

INSTRUCTIONS

DO NOT USE A METAL SPOON, METAL BOWL OR METAL PAN!  DO NOT REFRIGERATE!
Day 1 - Do nothing Day 2 - Stir starter with wooden spoon Day 3 - Stir
starter with wooden spoon Day 4 - Stir starter with wooden spoon Day 5 -
Stir starter with wooden spoon Day 6 - Add 1 cup plain flour, 1 cup sugar
and 1 cup milk; stir with
:        wooden spoon Day 7 - Stir starter with wooden spoon Day 8 - Stir
starter with wooden spoon Day 9 - Stir starter with wooden spoon Day 10 -
Add 1 cup plain flour, 1 cup sugar and 1 cup milk; stir with
:        wooden spoon
Pour into three 1-cup containers.  Keep one for yourself and give the other
two to friends with a copy of this recipe.
  TO BAKE BREAD:
Pour the remainder of the starter into a large glass or plastic bowl. Add 1
cup oil, 1/2 cup milk, 3 eggs and  1 teaspoon vanilla.  Mix thoroughly with
wooden spoon.
In a separate glass or plastic bowl, mix together 2 cups plain flour, 1 cup
sugar, 1 cup chopped nuts, 2 teaspoons cinnamon, 1 1/2 teaspoons baking
powder, 1/2 teaspoon salt, 1/2 teaspoon baking soda and 1 large box instant
vanilla pudding.
Add dry ingredients to wet ingredients and mix thoroughly by hand. Do not
use electric mixer.
Pour into 2 large or 4 small loaf pans, which have been well greased (with
solid shortening) and generously sprinkled with cinnamon sugar. Sprinkle
extra cinnamon sugar on top.  Bake at 325=F8 for about 1 hour for large
pans or about 40 minutes for small pans.
Posted to MM-Recipes Digest V3 #264
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 07:36:49 -0500
From: netdir@cyberspc.mb.ca (S.Pickell)

A Message from our Provider:

“When God saw you – It was love at first sight”

Counseling Principles: 1. When seeking to bring about change, never attempt to do so in the abstract; people change only in concrete ways. 2. Always give hope. People will not persevere during the often-difficult process of change without hope. 3. Never minimize the severity of problems; instead always maximize Christ and His power to solve problems. 4. If a person has a life-dominating problem, aim at total restructuring. 5. Always approach the seemingly hopeless situations with emphatic disagreement. Empathy alone removes all possibility of help. Disagree when the counselee says, “It’s hopeless.” Say, “It is difficult, but not too difficult for God.” 6. Don’t become orientated toward people’s problems, but toward God’s solutions. 7. Gauge how much change is now feasible; too little is boring, too much is discouraging. 8. Don’t let people settle for less than the scriptural solution. 9. Use biblical, or biblically derived, language when analyzing and labeling problems, and when planning solutions to them. 10. Be command-oriented rather than feeling-oriented.

Jay Adams