AMERICA AFTER OBAMA - a Prophecy - COMMENTS?
Quote from Forum Archives on June 4, 2015, 8:06 amPosted by: prophetic <prophetic@...>
NOTE: A very interesting prophecy was released this past week
by two old friends of mine - Robert Holmes and Mario Liu. I would
be very interested in your comments, my friends-AMERICA AFTER OBAMA - a Prophecy
by Robert Holmes & Mario LiuWhen the Arab Spring movement ousted Mubarak from power in
February 2011, I was bewildered. I was expecting that America
would come to the aid of its ally in the Middle East. Mubarak was
a dictator, but at the same time he has been a loyal friend of the
USA and Israel. Mubarak helped Israel during its conflicts with its
neighbours, and he supported USA in its foreign policies in the
Middle East.When Mubarak was in danger during the revolution, instead of
offering Mubarak support, Obama criticized Mubarak´s human
rights record. Apparently Obama took the side of the revolution
which toppled Mubarak in the belief that this would promote the
cause of democracy in Egypt. Instead of democracy, Egypt after
Mubarak was taken over by radical Muslims who allowed rockets
being smuggled into Gaza Strip through tunnels originating in
Egypt. Subsequently the Egyptian people revolted again and
another dictator came to power. The present government of Egypt
is no longer a friend of America.The past few months I have came across several articles which
confirmed my unease. I have read in a New York Times Magazine
article that some Middle East countries are buying fighter planes,
and warships, from France instead of the USA:"The French government, in concert with French defense manu-
facturer Dassault, is on the verge of concluding contracts for up
to 96 Rafale fighter jets. Of those, India will get 36, Egypt will get
24 and Qatar will get 24 and an option to buy 12 more. ... Egypt
receives more than a billion dollars annually in military aid from
the United States that it is largely obligated to spend on American
military hardware. But after President Obama suspended military
aid to Egypt in 2013, when the military ousted Mohamed Morsi,
the first democratically elected Egyptian leader, Egypt aggressively
pursued defense suppliers elsewhere and France was the beneficiary....
Other Persian Gulf neighbors, including Saudi Arabia and the
United Arab Emirates, have opted for mixed fleets of American
and European-built jets."In my view Obama has been carelessly squandering hard won
friendships which have been built up over decades by his predecessors.In the following extract from a recent news item, President Barack
Obama invited the leaders of six Persian Gulf countries to meet
with him at his summit. Four out of six Head of States refused to
come, and they are sending junior representatives instead:..."Mr Obama is convening the summit as the administration is
trying to restore the flagging confidence of Gulf Arab leaders in
US leadership in the face of an emboldened Iran. Several heads
of state are sending lower level officials to meet with Mr Obama,
sparking questions about whether the president had been
snubbed by frustrated allies.
"Saudi Arabia's King Salman cancelled two days after the White
House announced he had formally accepted an invitation to a
White House dinner on Wednesday and a day of talks at Camp
David, the presidential retreat. With King Salman's decision to
stay home, only two heads of state from the six invited countries
will be present.""There is a `very deep lack of trust´ in this administration `after six
years of empty promises, hesitation, indecisiveness´ in response
to the region's crises, said Mustafa Alani, an analyst at the Gulf
Research Centre in Geneva.
"Arab apprehension about Mr Obama has been growing for years,
fuelled by his decision to abandon President Hosni Mubarak of
Egypt, tepid support for moderate Syrian rebels and the president
ignoring his own "red line" against chemical weapons use by the
Assad regime in Syria."
(Bloomberg - May 12, 2015 Sydney Morning Herald)Another political blow to the USA relates to the China´s Asian
Infrastructure Investment Bank. USA has been pressuring its key
allies, including Australia, not to take part in China´s new bank.
However, one by one they have ignored US wishes and many
countries have signed up:...
"The administration was dealt an embarrassing political blow when
the U.K., Germany, France and a host of other Western nations
snubbed requests by Washington officials to sit out membership
in the AIIB amid questions over the new institution´s standards.
The diplomatic bruising renewed questions about whether the U.S.
is losing its economic clout in the world."
(Real Time Economics )All these disastrous political episodes led me to wonder whether
Obama is deliberately sabotaging the USA. So Robert Holmes
and I prayed about this. I asked God "Obama´s actions have done
a lot of harm to USA. He has allowed US allies to be removed
without offering help, terrifying other remaining friends of the US.
Obama allowed Syrian government to `cross the red line' of using
poison gas on the rebels without consequence, thus losing
credibility with the rest of the world. Is Obama a traitor? Were his
actions deliberately planned or has some enemies of USA sent
Obama as a spy to destroy USA from within?"God said to us "Don't give Satan credit for Obama, I put him there!
The US got what they deserve, in answer to their request. Obama's
decisions are entirely his. They do not represent my heart."The End of Empire America and "Remember Obama is my Alexander"
In November 2008 Robert Holmes published an article called "The
End of Empire America." In the article Robert summarized a series
of prophecies from God saying that the Empire of America is
coming to an end. In Robert´s article he wrote "In 1999, as I
prepared to travel to the US on ministry, the Lord gave me a very
unusual prophetic word. He said that, `In the days of Babylon,
when her walls stood wide and her leaders stood tall, her defences
were strong and her campaigns victorious, Alexander the Great
came and defeated her. In the same way, my Alexander will stand
in the very midst of the United States of America´." When Obama
was elected president of America, God confirmed to us many times
that Obama is God´s Alexander, and God would use Obama to
bring about the end of America as an empire...In July 2012 I came across an article by R Loren Sandford called
"HIDDEN WICKEDNESS - a CALL TO PRAYER". In this article
Sandford said "What I `know´ today with certainty is that something
sinister, deeply hidden, wrong and dangerous is going on at a
national governmental level. It is moving this nation down a path
that will harm us greatly and alter our country beyond recognition
if not stopped. Truth be told, I can't with confidence blame it solely
on Obama, Democrats, Republicans or Romney. I suspect it goes
deeper than any kind of party affiliation or individual office holder
and that many of these people are simply pawns on a chessboard,
whether they know it or not. I only know that what I sense is real,
it is huge and it has my insides in knots. I don't know whether or
not it will be revealed at some point and issue in a huge public
scandal or whether it will continue in hiddenness, molding and
shaping our lives in ways we don't even fully realize now. I just
know it's there and growing in destructive power."In July 2012 Robert and I met to pray about this. I asked God "Is
Obama part of the sinister plan that you have revealed to R
Sandford?" God´s answer was "Remember Obama is my Alexander.
There is a deep plan behind the scenes." I asked God to reveal
more about the evil plans. God said "Connected to the 'sinister
plans' - It is not Russia OR China directly - remember 'watch the
Middle East' - 'Watch'."The meaning of God´s answer was not very clear. But I gathered
the following: 1. Obama is involved in a deep plan behind the
scenes. 2. The plans involve the Middle East directly, and Russia
and China indirectly. 3. The whole episode is connected to God´s
Alexander, meaning that this is part of the process of ending
Empire America.Feeling that I needed more help in understanding the meaning of
"God´s Alexander," I asked God to please explain what that meant.
In November 2012 God said to us ""The interpretations of the
Obama prophecies are as follows: 1. Babylon was the world's
largest and most powerful empire. The United States is the same.
2. Alexander the Great was an enigmatic leader from the outside.
So is Obama. 3. Alexander defeated Babylon without bloodshed.
So does Obama. 4. Alexander stood in the middle of Babylon -
not at the city walls. Obama stood in Chicago, which is near the
middle of the USA, as opposed to being in the coastal areas of
the USA. 5. Once it was brought to its knees, Babylon was ended
and split up among several of Alexander´s generals. So will the
United States. The USA Empire is over. 6. It rusted and decayed.
So will America."End of Empire America - what does it mean
In 2012 the Washington State was pushing for legalizing the use
of small amounts of marijuana. One of our friends living in that
State was very concerned about this development.While Robert and I were praying for this friend, God told us "You
can expect moral decline, city by city and state by state:
bankruptcy both financial and moral. This is the end of Empire."Since Obama will finish his presidency in 2016, I am curious to
know what will happen to America afterwards. In May 2015 Robert
and I asked God about this. God told us that "USA after Obama
will be like the British Empire going into decline, shrinking back
and losing her overseas colonies and bases."God reminded us of an example of how America is in retreat. It
happened in Yemen in February 2015:
"The US withdrawal from the al-Anad air base comes after an
offensive by al-Qaeda fighters on the nearby city of al-Houta....."
(from "US troops withdraw from Yemen air base" BBC News
22 March 2015)In summary, God has revealed to us the following about the future
of America after Obama:
1. Like Babylon after Alexander´s realm, America will rust and
decay. 2. "USA after Obama will be like the British Empire going
into decline, shrinking back and losing her overseas colonies and
bases." 3. "You can expect moral decline, city by city and state
by state: bankruptcy both financial and moral. This is the end of Empire.""Hillary Clinton will become America's first female leader"
In April 2015, Hillary Clinton announced that she was planning to
run for president. Robert and I prayed and asked God about the
2016 US election, and about Hillary´s chances.God said to Robert "Remember that after Bill Clinton stepped
down, I told you then that Hillary Clinton will run for president ,
and that she will become America's first female leader."Thinking that this prophecy may be of interest to other members
of the Storm Harvest List community I sought to get more information
about Hillary´s presidency. If Obama is Alexander sent by God
to end the Empire of America, Hillary will represent a significant
historic figure also.I prayed and asked God for further insight on the Hillary presidency.
God said: "Mercurial is a word to describe the leadership style of
Hillary Clinton."According to the dictionary, mercurial describes someone whose
mood or behavior is changeable and unpredictable, or someone
who is clever, lively, and quick.I feel that there is more to be revealed. I may follow up on this topic
in a future newsletter."Stop being 'America' and start being Christ's followers"
God is love, and He loves us. Whatever God does is for our good.
In January 2015, God showed Robert the words "Exit Empire -
Enter Kingdom." Then God said "Stop being 'America' and start
being Christ's followers."God wants all of us to stop playing church, and to be serious
about listening to and obeying the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
We should deny ourselves daily, carry our cross, and follow Him.The only safe place in the world is to be found in the centre of
God´s will for us.-PLEASE COMMENT on this topic at the following website-
-Source-
Posted by: prophetic <prophetic@...>
by two old friends of mine - Robert Holmes and Mario Liu. I would
be very interested in your comments, my friends-
AMERICA AFTER OBAMA - a Prophecy
by Robert Holmes & Mario Liu
When the Arab Spring movement ousted Mubarak from power in
February 2011, I was bewildered. I was expecting that America
would come to the aid of its ally in the Middle East. Mubarak was
a dictator, but at the same time he has been a loyal friend of the
USA and Israel. Mubarak helped Israel during its conflicts with its
neighbours, and he supported USA in its foreign policies in the
Middle East.
When Mubarak was in danger during the revolution, instead of
offering Mubarak support, Obama criticized Mubarak´s human
rights record. Apparently Obama took the side of the revolution
which toppled Mubarak in the belief that this would promote the
cause of democracy in Egypt. Instead of democracy, Egypt after
Mubarak was taken over by radical Muslims who allowed rockets
being smuggled into Gaza Strip through tunnels originating in
Egypt. Subsequently the Egyptian people revolted again and
another dictator came to power. The present government of Egypt
is no longer a friend of America.
The past few months I have came across several articles which
confirmed my unease. I have read in a New York Times Magazine
article that some Middle East countries are buying fighter planes,
and warships, from France instead of the USA:
"The French government, in concert with French defense manu-
facturer Dassault, is on the verge of concluding contracts for up
to 96 Rafale fighter jets. Of those, India will get 36, Egypt will get
24 and Qatar will get 24 and an option to buy 12 more. ... Egypt
receives more than a billion dollars annually in military aid from
the United States that it is largely obligated to spend on American
military hardware. But after President Obama suspended military
aid to Egypt in 2013, when the military ousted Mohamed Morsi,
the first democratically elected Egyptian leader, Egypt aggressively
pursued defense suppliers elsewhere and France was the beneficiary....
Other Persian Gulf neighbors, including Saudi Arabia and the
United Arab Emirates, have opted for mixed fleets of American
and European-built jets."
In my view Obama has been carelessly squandering hard won
friendships which have been built up over decades by his predecessors.
In the following extract from a recent news item, President Barack
Obama invited the leaders of six Persian Gulf countries to meet
with him at his summit. Four out of six Head of States refused to
come, and they are sending junior representatives instead:...
"Mr Obama is convening the summit as the administration is
trying to restore the flagging confidence of Gulf Arab leaders in
US leadership in the face of an emboldened Iran. Several heads
of state are sending lower level officials to meet with Mr Obama,
sparking questions about whether the president had been
snubbed by frustrated allies.
"Saudi Arabia's King Salman cancelled two days after the White
House announced he had formally accepted an invitation to a
White House dinner on Wednesday and a day of talks at Camp
David, the presidential retreat. With King Salman's decision to
stay home, only two heads of state from the six invited countries
will be present."
"There is a `very deep lack of trust´ in this administration `after six
years of empty promises, hesitation, indecisiveness´ in response
to the region's crises, said Mustafa Alani, an analyst at the Gulf
Research Centre in Geneva.
"Arab apprehension about Mr Obama has been growing for years,
fuelled by his decision to abandon President Hosni Mubarak of
Egypt, tepid support for moderate Syrian rebels and the president
ignoring his own "red line" against chemical weapons use by the
Assad regime in Syria."
(Bloomberg - May 12, 2015 Sydney Morning Herald)
Another political blow to the USA relates to the China´s Asian
Infrastructure Investment Bank. USA has been pressuring its key
allies, including Australia, not to take part in China´s new bank.
However, one by one they have ignored US wishes and many
countries have signed up:...
"The administration was dealt an embarrassing political blow when
the U.K., Germany, France and a host of other Western nations
snubbed requests by Washington officials to sit out membership
in the AIIB amid questions over the new institution´s standards.
The diplomatic bruising renewed questions about whether the U.S.
is losing its economic clout in the world."
(Real Time Economics )
All these disastrous political episodes led me to wonder whether
Obama is deliberately sabotaging the USA. So Robert Holmes
and I prayed about this. I asked God "Obama´s actions have done
a lot of harm to USA. He has allowed US allies to be removed
without offering help, terrifying other remaining friends of the US.
Obama allowed Syrian government to `cross the red line' of using
poison gas on the rebels without consequence, thus losing
credibility with the rest of the world. Is Obama a traitor? Were his
actions deliberately planned or has some enemies of USA sent
Obama as a spy to destroy USA from within?"
God said to us "Don't give Satan credit for Obama, I put him there!
The US got what they deserve, in answer to their request. Obama's
decisions are entirely his. They do not represent my heart."
The End of Empire America and "Remember Obama is my Alexander"
In November 2008 Robert Holmes published an article called "The
End of Empire America." In the article Robert summarized a series
of prophecies from God saying that the Empire of America is
coming to an end. In Robert´s article he wrote "In 1999, as I
prepared to travel to the US on ministry, the Lord gave me a very
unusual prophetic word. He said that, `In the days of Babylon,
when her walls stood wide and her leaders stood tall, her defences
were strong and her campaigns victorious, Alexander the Great
came and defeated her. In the same way, my Alexander will stand
in the very midst of the United States of America´." When Obama
was elected president of America, God confirmed to us many times
that Obama is God´s Alexander, and God would use Obama to
bring about the end of America as an empire...
In July 2012 I came across an article by R Loren Sandford called
"HIDDEN WICKEDNESS - a CALL TO PRAYER". In this article
Sandford said "What I `know´ today with certainty is that something
sinister, deeply hidden, wrong and dangerous is going on at a
national governmental level. It is moving this nation down a path
that will harm us greatly and alter our country beyond recognition
if not stopped. Truth be told, I can't with confidence blame it solely
on Obama, Democrats, Republicans or Romney. I suspect it goes
deeper than any kind of party affiliation or individual office holder
and that many of these people are simply pawns on a chessboard,
whether they know it or not. I only know that what I sense is real,
it is huge and it has my insides in knots. I don't know whether or
not it will be revealed at some point and issue in a huge public
scandal or whether it will continue in hiddenness, molding and
shaping our lives in ways we don't even fully realize now. I just
know it's there and growing in destructive power."
In July 2012 Robert and I met to pray about this. I asked God "Is
Obama part of the sinister plan that you have revealed to R
Sandford?" God´s answer was "Remember Obama is my Alexander.
There is a deep plan behind the scenes." I asked God to reveal
more about the evil plans. God said "Connected to the 'sinister
plans' - It is not Russia OR China directly - remember 'watch the
Middle East' - 'Watch'."
The meaning of God´s answer was not very clear. But I gathered
the following: 1. Obama is involved in a deep plan behind the
scenes. 2. The plans involve the Middle East directly, and Russia
and China indirectly. 3. The whole episode is connected to God´s
Alexander, meaning that this is part of the process of ending
Empire America.
Feeling that I needed more help in understanding the meaning of
"God´s Alexander," I asked God to please explain what that meant.
In November 2012 God said to us ""The interpretations of the
Obama prophecies are as follows: 1. Babylon was the world's
largest and most powerful empire. The United States is the same.
2. Alexander the Great was an enigmatic leader from the outside.
So is Obama. 3. Alexander defeated Babylon without bloodshed.
So does Obama. 4. Alexander stood in the middle of Babylon -
not at the city walls. Obama stood in Chicago, which is near the
middle of the USA, as opposed to being in the coastal areas of
the USA. 5. Once it was brought to its knees, Babylon was ended
and split up among several of Alexander´s generals. So will the
United States. The USA Empire is over. 6. It rusted and decayed.
So will America."
End of Empire America - what does it mean
In 2012 the Washington State was pushing for legalizing the use
of small amounts of marijuana. One of our friends living in that
State was very concerned about this development.
While Robert and I were praying for this friend, God told us "You
can expect moral decline, city by city and state by state:
bankruptcy both financial and moral. This is the end of Empire."
Since Obama will finish his presidency in 2016, I am curious to
know what will happen to America afterwards. In May 2015 Robert
and I asked God about this. God told us that "USA after Obama
will be like the British Empire going into decline, shrinking back
and losing her overseas colonies and bases."
God reminded us of an example of how America is in retreat. It
happened in Yemen in February 2015:
"The US withdrawal from the al-Anad air base comes after an
offensive by al-Qaeda fighters on the nearby city of al-Houta....."
(from "US troops withdraw from Yemen air base" BBC News
22 March 2015)
In summary, God has revealed to us the following about the future
of America after Obama:
1. Like Babylon after Alexander´s realm, America will rust and
decay. 2. "USA after Obama will be like the British Empire going
into decline, shrinking back and losing her overseas colonies and
bases." 3. "You can expect moral decline, city by city and state
by state: bankruptcy both financial and moral. This is the end of Empire."
"Hillary Clinton will become America's first female leader"
In April 2015, Hillary Clinton announced that she was planning to
run for president. Robert and I prayed and asked God about the
2016 US election, and about Hillary´s chances.
God said to Robert "Remember that after Bill Clinton stepped
down, I told you then that Hillary Clinton will run for president ,
and that she will become America's first female leader."
Thinking that this prophecy may be of interest to other members
of the Storm Harvest List community I sought to get more information
about Hillary´s presidency. If Obama is Alexander sent by God
to end the Empire of America, Hillary will represent a significant
historic figure also.
I prayed and asked God for further insight on the Hillary presidency.
God said: "Mercurial is a word to describe the leadership style of
Hillary Clinton."
According to the dictionary, mercurial describes someone whose
mood or behavior is changeable and unpredictable, or someone
who is clever, lively, and quick.
I feel that there is more to be revealed. I may follow up on this topic
in a future newsletter.
"Stop being 'America' and start being Christ's followers"
God is love, and He loves us. Whatever God does is for our good.
In January 2015, God showed Robert the words "Exit Empire -
Enter Kingdom." Then God said "Stop being 'America' and start
being Christ's followers."
God wants all of us to stop playing church, and to be serious
about listening to and obeying the prompting of the Holy Spirit.
We should deny ourselves daily, carry our cross, and follow Him.
The only safe place in the world is to be found in the centre of
God´s will for us.
-PLEASE COMMENT on this topic at the following website-
-Source-