AVOIDING STRANGE FIRE

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AVOIDING Strange FIRE
-by Jonas Clark.

The Holy Spirit is not strange, weird or mystical. He is the third
part of the Trinity. He is a gentleman, statesman and a loving
God that lifts up Christ the only begotten son of God. He is not
a female presence, an it, a thing, a midst, a feeling or some
orphic force.

*There are many people interested in prophetic ministry and
theres much confusion about it. *

Throughout your ministry you will be faced with many odd,
even strange things that will require much spiritual discernment.
Spiritual discernment will come from the Holy Spirit and be
verified by many Scriptures throughout the written Word of
God. History has introduced many divagating prophets with
strange manifestations. Your advantage is four thousand
years of * written* biblical history to use as your guide for
accuracy from Adam to Christ. One corner stone for staying
biblical is using that written history as your foundation for
measuring truth. When strange things happen look to the
Word for biblical examples. If you cant find any then
something is terribly wrong.

Experiences, even vivid, powerful, and supernatural ones are
not measurements for truth. In my generation some have gold
dust, feathers, gems, and people barking and roaring like lions
in their meetings. A search through the Scriptures gives no
evidence that the Holy Spirit used any of these things to confirm
Christs Word. Others say female angels are healing people.
There is no evidence of the existence of female angels in the
Word. These are only a few examples of strange fire. Someone
may tell you that the things of the Spirit cant be understood by
the natural man. Thats not true at all because the Holy Spirit
can be understood. He never violates the written Word. The
things of the Spirit are understood by the logos, the Bible
(Hebrews 4:12). The Holy Spirit is not strange, weird or mystical.
He is the third part of the Trinity. He is a gentleman, statesman
and a loving God that lifts up Christ the only begotten son of God.
He is not a female presence, an it, a thing, a midst, a feeling or
some orphic force.

*PROPHETS OF DECEPTION*
In my generation Jezebel and Baalim prophets are the prevailing
enemies of true prophetic ministry. In the last twenty years these
spirits have become sophisticated, built their own network of
churches, followers, training schools, written many books and
produced many training videos. These spirits intend to hijack the
prophetic ministry and hold themselves out to be the experts in
the field. They condemn any criticism by outsiders as irrelevant,
unloving, ignorant and judgmental. Hopefully by the time you
read this material their folly will be known to all and your
generation will escape their deceptions. More than likely things
are much worse. If so, you will find them as your strongest
opponents.

Both these prophetic groups and others you will encounter have
all types of strange signs and wonders in their meetings. Just
remember not all wonders, no matter how mystical and exciting
are from the Holy Ghost (1 John 4:1). Even legitimate miracles
in meetings do not confirm these ministers are flowing right.
Scripture says, Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have
cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from
me, ye that work iniquity (Matthew 7:22-23).

One particular trait among them is the love of money that
finances extravagant lifestyles. Those that embrace these
spirits are merchandisers. A merchandiser sells prophecies,
healings, religious oils, potions and various products that
reinforce their beliefs. Typically they work within their own
networks focusing on getting as much money from people as
possible. They have all kinds of gimmick offerings that
manipulate people. They are always recruiting followers to
join their groups. I have seen them work every kind of evil
when it comes to stealing from Gods people.

One young man met with me that hooked up with one of
these merchandising networks. He gave me his ordination
papers from the various ministers within the network and
renounced his involvement. He said the purpose of their many
conferences is to raise money, not to advance the ministry
of Christ. After services they divide the offerings among
themselves. He shocked me when he said the amount of
money one raises confirms the level of their prophetic
anointing. For several hours he spoke of many individuals,
some well known and others obscure, gave their names and
explained numerous evil strategies for meetings across our
nation. They even merchandise one another. They look for
young naïve upstarts to turn into devils like themselves. There
is every sort of evil working behind the scenes among these
people. These are professional prophets that watch videos
and listen to audios to learn the sayings and particular
mannerisms of true ministers of the Gospel and from their
own they think are effective deceivers (Jeremiah 23:30).
Avoid them and dont do any meetings with them or for them
and dont attend them. Beware their accolades, flatteries
and smiles toward you. At first they will flatter you. If that
works then they will merchandise you. If that doesnt work
they will blackball you. Just remember, if you can be flattered,
you can be bought. Christs servants are not prostitutes.

A spirit of rejection may attack you if these leaders shun
you. If you feel that way just think of it like this, rejection is
protection. You dont need anybodies approval save Christs.
Gods servants cant be bought at any price! Dont try to learn
anything from them. You are not a psychic, mystic, spiritist
or soothsayer. You are a minister of Christ. You have a
responsibility to use your gift as a faithful steward to serve
the body of Christ. The purpose of the anointing is to establish
and advance the Kingdom of God, give witness to the love
of God and confirm to the world the resurrection of Christ
our Savior. You will also be called to turn the heart of people
toward God, walk in holiness, confront sin and build the
Church of Christ. Avoid fame, accolades from men and
vain glory, and mind your motives in all things (Proverbs
4:23)...

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Posted by: prophetic <prophetic@...>

AVOIDING Strange FIRE
-by Jonas Clark.

The Holy Spirit is not strange, weird or mystical. He is the third
part of the Trinity. He is a gentleman, statesman and a loving
God that lifts up Christ the only begotten son of God. He is not
a female presence, an it, a thing, a midst, a feeling or some
orphic force.

*There are many people interested in prophetic ministry and
theres much confusion about it. *

Throughout your ministry you will be faced with many odd,
even strange things that will require much spiritual discernment.
Spiritual discernment will come from the Holy Spirit and be
verified by many Scriptures throughout the written Word of
God. History has introduced many divagating prophets with
strange manifestations. Your advantage is four thousand
years of * written* biblical history to use as your guide for
accuracy from Adam to Christ. One corner stone for staying
biblical is using that written history as your foundation for
measuring truth. When strange things happen look to the
Word for biblical examples. If you cant find any then
something is terribly wrong.

Experiences, even vivid, powerful, and supernatural ones are
not measurements for truth. In my generation some have gold
dust, feathers, gems, and people barking and roaring like lions
in their meetings. A search through the Scriptures gives no
evidence that the Holy Spirit used any of these things to confirm
Christs Word. Others say female angels are healing people.
There is no evidence of the existence of female angels in the
Word. These are only a few examples of strange fire. Someone
may tell you that the things of the Spirit cant be understood by
the natural man. Thats not true at all because the Holy Spirit
can be understood. He never violates the written Word. The
things of the Spirit are understood by the logos, the Bible
(Hebrews 4:12). The Holy Spirit is not strange, weird or mystical.
He is the third part of the Trinity. He is a gentleman, statesman
and a loving God that lifts up Christ the only begotten son of God.
He is not a female presence, an it, a thing, a midst, a feeling or
some orphic force.

*PROPHETS OF DECEPTION*
In my generation Jezebel and Baalim prophets are the prevailing
enemies of true prophetic ministry. In the last twenty years these
spirits have become sophisticated, built their own network of
churches, followers, training schools, written many books and
produced many training videos. These spirits intend to hijack the
prophetic ministry and hold themselves out to be the experts in
the field. They condemn any criticism by outsiders as irrelevant,
unloving, ignorant and judgmental. Hopefully by the time you
read this material their folly will be known to all and your
generation will escape their deceptions. More than likely things
are much worse. If so, you will find them as your strongest
opponents.

Both these prophetic groups and others you will encounter have
all types of strange signs and wonders in their meetings. Just
remember not all wonders, no matter how mystical and exciting
are from the Holy Ghost (1 John 4:1). Even legitimate miracles
in meetings do not confirm these ministers are flowing right.
Scripture says, Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord,
have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have
cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from
me, ye that work iniquity (Matthew 7:22-23).

One particular trait among them is the love of money that
finances extravagant lifestyles. Those that embrace these
spirits are merchandisers. A merchandiser sells prophecies,
healings, religious oils, potions and various products that
reinforce their beliefs. Typically they work within their own
networks focusing on getting as much money from people as
possible. They have all kinds of gimmick offerings that
manipulate people. They are always recruiting followers to
join their groups. I have seen them work every kind of evil
when it comes to stealing from Gods people.

One young man met with me that hooked up with one of
these merchandising networks. He gave me his ordination
papers from the various ministers within the network and
renounced his involvement. He said the purpose of their many
conferences is to raise money, not to advance the ministry
of Christ. After services they divide the offerings among
themselves. He shocked me when he said the amount of
money one raises confirms the level of their prophetic
anointing. For several hours he spoke of many individuals,
some well known and others obscure, gave their names and
explained numerous evil strategies for meetings across our
nation. They even merchandise one another. They look for
young naïve upstarts to turn into devils like themselves. There
is every sort of evil working behind the scenes among these
people. These are professional prophets that watch videos
and listen to audios to learn the sayings and particular
mannerisms of true ministers of the Gospel and from their
own they think are effective deceivers (Jeremiah 23:30).
Avoid them and dont do any meetings with them or for them
and dont attend them. Beware their accolades, flatteries
and smiles toward you. At first they will flatter you. If that
works then they will merchandise you. If that doesnt work
they will blackball you. Just remember, if you can be flattered,
you can be bought. Christs servants are not prostitutes.

A spirit of rejection may attack you if these leaders shun
you. If you feel that way just think of it like this, rejection is
protection. You dont need anybodies approval save Christs.
Gods servants cant be bought at any price! Dont try to learn
anything from them. You are not a psychic, mystic, spiritist
or soothsayer. You are a minister of Christ. You have a
responsibility to use your gift as a faithful steward to serve
the body of Christ. The purpose of the anointing is to establish
and advance the Kingdom of God, give witness to the love
of God and confirm to the world the resurrection of Christ
our Savior. You will also be called to turn the heart of people
toward God, walk in holiness, confront sin and build the
Church of Christ. Avoid fame, accolades from men and
vain glory, and mind your motives in all things (Proverbs
4:23)...

-Please comment on this extract at the website below-

http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/

SOURCE- jonasclark.com/news/117/ARTICLE/1249/2009-11-09.html