Timing - team dynamics
Posted by: midnightpraise <midnightpraise@...>
Terry Butler. You might be able to find on Vineyard's website or various
Christian sites and bookstores. I'm not sure if it would help with those
specific time changes, but it helps overall. Talks about less is more,
with singers as well as instrument players, and how people should listen
to the others playing and not jump in quite so fast. It also talks about
timing issues and keeping together, keeping a groove etc.
With the keyboard player, I'm not sure without hearing it, but I do know
that often times experienced keyboard players will be able to play great
themselves, but have trouble keeping time with others, because they are
so used to doing it themselves. They tend to go on feeling, slowing down
and speeding up ("rubato")and to put it bluntly, kind of get lost in
their own world. Works great for classical solo piano, but can be
frustrating when trying to play along together a band.
I know also that fingerstyle guitar is sometimes hard to get down
rhythmicly with others, maybe because it's more similar to the piano,
whereas strumming is more like drums. I've dealt with that in my own
playing.
Maybe you could somekind of metronome or drum machine that you could all
follow along to? At least while practicing anyway, till you get it down.
...or maybe not, okay. 🙂
Or maybe you could ask her to play straight block chords for now. Course
tact might need to be used, especially if she's older and an established
player in the church.
Or maybe you could strum the chords in simple straight rhythm?
Also do you have the song on CD? Sometimes if the singers have a copy
they can be more familiar to the time changes, and be used to it sounding
that way.
Hope you found something somewhere in my rambling that might help.
God bless,
Josh
On Thu, 1 May 2003 17:22:00 -0500 "Kevin" <klsluder@tima.com> writes:
> Need advice from you experienced folks. I just introduced our praise
> team
> to "How Deep The Fathers Love For Us" it is a few years old now but
> a very
> beautiful modern hymn. I have played it for a few years at home but
> because
> of the timing I was concerned it might be beyond our teams ability.
> The
> timing on it alternates 6/4 4/4 all the way through the song. We
> actually
> did pretty good on it. The only problem was that the singers seemed
> to drag
> at times causing me to break rhythm to wait on them.
>
> I don't think the problem was me although at times it was my fault
> because I
> was trying to listen to the singers and the keyboard and my playing
> (I do
> this one fingerstyle) while trying to count in my head while
> watching my
> place on the chord chart. You know what I'm talking about, you have
> been
> there. I wasn't frustrated. It was good. I just want it to be
> better.
> How do you handle these times? How do you pull a teams timing
> together?
>
> The keyboard player is a counter and as long as she stopped playing
> and
> counted or sang along things were fine. When she started playing it
> would
> deteriorate again. I know we just started practicing this song and
> we have
> come a long way but suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Our keyboard player is the church organist and choir director. I
> don't know
> how many years of training she has had but she knows what she is
> doing. I
> have had one year of lessons (I'm strictly rhythm). Our Bass player
> joined
> the team and learned as he went along. None of the singers are
> trained. We
> have no drummer. Actually we do. It is the drums we don't have.
> Patience,
> I know.
>
> Peace
> Kevin
>
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Josh Taylor
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