Fw: Homeschooler - Be Careful!

#1 · October 2, 2001, 4:48 pm

Quote from Forum Archives on October 2, 2001, 4:48 pm
Posted by: dhaley <dhaley@...>

I've not had this happen to me the but the source is reliable. Just thought
others might be aware...Deanna

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:13 AM
Subject: Homeschooler - Be Careful!

>
> BE CAREFUL!
>
> >From HEM writer Karen Hoogland: On July 30, 2001, my husband
> >received a call from a man who stated he was a student at New York
> >University (NYU) and was doing a thesis on education. He identified
> >himself as Aaron Devonshire. He claimed he had read an article I had
> >written for the July/August 2001 issue of Home Education Magazine.
> >At the time, I was not home, but my husband spoke with him very
> >briefly. My husband suggested he speak with me.
>
> Later that evening, he called again. This time, I spoke with him for
> approximately 20 minutes. He explained that he was a student at NYU,
> working on a thesis. He said part of the project involved doing a
> survey of parents regarding education. He went on to say the survey
> was studying both traditional schooling and homeschooling. He asked
> some very generic questions: How long have you been homeschooling?
> Why did you start homeschooling?
>
> He then asked my opinion on whether I thought my kids were learning
> better or the same in homeschooling. He asked if we used traditional
> materials or if I put together my own curriculum. Then, the
> conversation turned very strange. He asked what kind of discipline I
> use in my homeschool. Did I use corporal punishment? No, I told him I
> did not. He persisted, asking if I was sure I never spanked the kids.
> I told him no, and I did not see what this had to do with education.
>
> He went on to tell me that according to his results, 82% of
> homeschoolers use corporal punishment. He said that of those 82%, 62%
> use the "traditional method", spanking the child on the rear while
> the child lays across the parents lap. He also told me that most of
> these parents use a paddle or some other device to spank.
>
> I told him that our conversation was over, that I did not think
> corporal punishment was relevant to a study on education. He then
> asked if he could speak to my son. I told him my son was not
> interested. At this point, he became upset, telling me I was a
> "permissive parent" for not making my son speak to an adult. I told
> him that I would not make my son speak with anyone. I then hung up
> the phone.
>
> The very next day, I decided to contact NYU. I was able to speak to a
> gentleman in the admissions office by the name of Craig Griffin. He
> took all of the information, including the phone numbers that showed
> up on my Caller-ID, and told me he would see what he could come up
> with.
>
> Within an hour, he called back to let me know that there is no such
> student registered at the university. The phone numbers did not match
> any in their database, either. He also said that a student doing a
> project would never ask to speak to a child.
>
> I did receive one more call from the "student" on July 31. He asked
> for me, and told me had some other questions. I told him I had
> questions, too, and had called the university to inquire about him. I
> told him I knew he was a fraud. He hung up on me immediately.
>
> The phone numbers used all came up on my Caller-ID as Connecticut
> phone numbers. They all appear to be pay phone numbers. The numbers
> are: 203-255-8116; 203-222-9987; 203-261-9844. The security at NYU is
> currently looking into this situation. As more information becomes
> available, I will pass it on. In the meantime, all homeschoolers
> should be aware of this man. He is a fraud. ~ Karen Hoogland ~
>
> ^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^
>
> HEM ONLINE NEWS UNCLASSIFIED ADVERTISING
>
> For information on purchasing unclassified advertising space in this
> newsletter, please contact the editor at
> HEM-Newsletter@home-ed-magazine.com.
>
> ________
>
> THE RESOURCEFUL HOMESCHOOLER
> resourcefulhomeschooler.com
>
> Attention unschoolers and eclectic homeschoolers! The Resourceful
> Homeschooler carries great books, science materials and kits,
> learning games, and the most interesting software. 15% DISCOUNT ON
> YOUR FIRST ON-LINE ORDER OVER $75. Coupon Number HEM-59999. Gift
> certificates, a search service AND here is your opportunity to clear
> some shelf space! List or consign your surplus or used homeschooling
> materials. Store credit available for consignments. Visit
> www.resourcefulhomeschooler.com or call (877)523-0494. Great
> materials for independent learners of all ages.
> ________
>
> LEARNING SKILLS FOR LIFE
> iKnowthat.com
>
> What does your child need to succeed? Lifelong learning skills.
> Experts say that's what our children will need to keep up in
> tomorrow's rapidly changing world. Now there's a powerful new
> web-based community that can help your child develop such
> meta-learning skills. Try it risk-free at:
> www.iknowthat.com/com?CO=01HEM01
> _________
>
> USBORNE
> UsborneAmerica.com
>
> New titles for fall and winter are here -- including Internet-Linked
> history and science books! Shop online and earn FREE and discounted
> books. Visit our Books from Britain bookstore at:
> www.UsborneAmerica.com. Home business opportunity information
> available onsite. Email SharonVE@aol.com or call 888-474-8499 toll
> free. Sharon Vander Ende, Independent Executive Supervisor.
> _________
>
> GNARLY MATH
> Gnarlymath.com
>
> LIKE TO REFRESH YOUR MATH SKILLS? And stimulate your creative
> thinking? Then order our CD-ROM Solid Gold Gnarly Math, the only CD
> which teaches Algebra, Geometry, Trig, Statistics, Topology, and
> Numbers. It's filled with ideas that'll make math fun and
> easy--guaranteed! Order it at www.gnarlymath.com , where you
> can also subscribe to our free hilarious math newsletter. This month
> the newsletter takes you to China in Marco Polo's time, where you'll
> see THE WORLD'S FIRST SEISMOGRAPH DETECTING A FAR-AWAY EARTHQUAKE!
> _________
>
> GIVE YOUR CHILD THE HEADSPROUT READING ADVANTAGE
> Headsprout.com
>
> Headsprout Reading is the fun, Internet-delivered beginning reading
> program that will give your child a real advantage by systematically
> teaching essential skills and strategies ensuring reading success and
> confidence. Your child will really enjoy our fun, animated,
> interactive episodes. After just five 20-minute episodes, children
> read their first Headsprout books. Act quickly. For a limited time,
> Headsprout Reading is available free at: www.headsprout.com .
> Please enter the promotional code: HENJ1
>
> _________
>
> HOME EDUCATION MAGAZINE
> www.home-ed-magazine.com
>
> Take a look at what you'll miss if you haven't read the current Home
> Education Magazine. The September/October issue features articles on
> a homeschool camp, dots (you'll have to read it to find out), car
> schooling (don't we all?), homeschooling on the move and more. From
> the columnists: the Kaseman's take on HSLDA; Becky Rupp helps your
> memory; David Albert climbs the beanstalk; and Carol Narigon (that's
> me) gives advice on the beginning and ending of the homeschool year.
> Other columnists include Barbara Theisen, Peter Kowalke, Linda
> Dobson, and Laura Weldon.
>
> With this issue of HEM Online News we are offering a one year
> subscription to Home Education Magazine at a 30% discount. See:
> www.home-ed-magazine.com/ORD/_frm_newsub.html
>
> A single issue is $6.50. Home Education Magazine, PO Box 1083,
> Tonasket WA 98855; for orders: toll-free 1-800-236-3278; email
> orders@home-ed-magazine.com. MC/Visa cards accepted. DON'T MISS IT!
>
> _________
>
> ^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^
>
> FINAL WORD
>
> "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
> tomorrow in Australia." ~ Charles Schultz ~
>
> ^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^
>
> Thanks for reading HEM's Online News! Pass it on to your friends! To
> subscribe, visit our web site at
> www.home-ed-magazine.com/wlcm_hemnewsltr.html or send an email
> to majordomo@home-ed-magazine.com with the words subscribe
> hem-online-newsletter followed by your name@your address.com in the
> body of the email. (e.g. subscribe hem-online-newsletter
> youremailaddress). To unsubscribe, send an email to
> majordomo@home-ed-magazine.com with the words unsubscribe
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> body of the email. (e.g. unsubscribe hem-online-newsletter
> youremailaddress). To change the address at which you receive the
> newsletter, unsubscribe your old address and then subscribe to your
> new one.
>
> See you next month!
>
> Carol Narigon, Newsletter Editor
> HEM-Newsletter@home-ed-magazine.com
> Mark and Helen Hegener, Publishers of Home Education Magazine
>
>
>

Posted by: dhaley <dhaley@...>

I've not had this happen to me the but the source is reliable. Just thought
others might be aware...Deanna

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:13 AM
Subject: Homeschooler - Be Careful!

>
> BE CAREFUL!
>
> >From HEM writer Karen Hoogland: On July 30, 2001, my husband
> >received a call from a man who stated he was a student at New York
> >University (NYU) and was doing a thesis on education. He identified
> >himself as Aaron Devonshire. He claimed he had read an article I had
> >written for the July/August 2001 issue of Home Education Magazine.
> >At the time, I was not home, but my husband spoke with him very
> >briefly. My husband suggested he speak with me.
>
> Later that evening, he called again. This time, I spoke with him for
> approximately 20 minutes. He explained that he was a student at NYU,
> working on a thesis. He said part of the project involved doing a
> survey of parents regarding education. He went on to say the survey
> was studying both traditional schooling and homeschooling. He asked
> some very generic questions: How long have you been homeschooling?
> Why did you start homeschooling?
>
> He then asked my opinion on whether I thought my kids were learning
> better or the same in homeschooling. He asked if we used traditional
> materials or if I put together my own curriculum. Then, the
> conversation turned very strange. He asked what kind of discipline I
> use in my homeschool. Did I use corporal punishment? No, I told him I
> did not. He persisted, asking if I was sure I never spanked the kids.
> I told him no, and I did not see what this had to do with education.
>
> He went on to tell me that according to his results, 82% of
> homeschoolers use corporal punishment. He said that of those 82%, 62%
> use the "traditional method", spanking the child on the rear while
> the child lays across the parents lap. He also told me that most of
> these parents use a paddle or some other device to spank.
>
> I told him that our conversation was over, that I did not think
> corporal punishment was relevant to a study on education. He then
> asked if he could speak to my son. I told him my son was not
> interested. At this point, he became upset, telling me I was a
> "permissive parent" for not making my son speak to an adult. I told
> him that I would not make my son speak with anyone. I then hung up
> the phone.
>
> The very next day, I decided to contact NYU. I was able to speak to a
> gentleman in the admissions office by the name of Craig Griffin. He
> took all of the information, including the phone numbers that showed
> up on my Caller-ID, and told me he would see what he could come up
> with.
>
> Within an hour, he called back to let me know that there is no such
> student registered at the university. The phone numbers did not match
> any in their database, either. He also said that a student doing a
> project would never ask to speak to a child.
>
> I did receive one more call from the "student" on July 31. He asked
> for me, and told me had some other questions. I told him I had
> questions, too, and had called the university to inquire about him. I
> told him I knew he was a fraud. He hung up on me immediately.
>
> The phone numbers used all came up on my Caller-ID as Connecticut
> phone numbers. They all appear to be pay phone numbers. The numbers
> are: 203-255-8116; 203-222-9987; 203-261-9844. The security at NYU is
> currently looking into this situation. As more information becomes
> available, I will pass it on. In the meantime, all homeschoolers
> should be aware of this man. He is a fraud. ~ Karen Hoogland ~
>
> ^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^
>
> HEM ONLINE NEWS UNCLASSIFIED ADVERTISING
>
> For information on purchasing unclassified advertising space in this
> newsletter, please contact the editor at
> HEM-Newsletter@home-ed-magazine.com.
>
> ________
>
> THE RESOURCEFUL HOMESCHOOLER
> resourcefulhomeschooler.com
>
> Attention unschoolers and eclectic homeschoolers! The Resourceful
> Homeschooler carries great books, science materials and kits,
> learning games, and the most interesting software. 15% DISCOUNT ON
> YOUR FIRST ON-LINE ORDER OVER $75. Coupon Number HEM-59999. Gift
> certificates, a search service AND here is your opportunity to clear
> some shelf space! List or consign your surplus or used homeschooling
> materials. Store credit available for consignments. Visit
> http://www.resourcefulhomeschooler.com or call (877)523-0494. Great
> materials for independent learners of all ages.
> ________
>
> LEARNING SKILLS FOR LIFE
> iKnowthat.com
>
> What does your child need to succeed? Lifelong learning skills.
> Experts say that's what our children will need to keep up in
> tomorrow's rapidly changing world. Now there's a powerful new
> web-based community that can help your child develop such
> meta-learning skills. Try it risk-free at:
> http://www.iknowthat.com/com?CO=01HEM01
> _________
>
> USBORNE
> UsborneAmerica.com
>
> New titles for fall and winter are here -- including Internet-Linked
> history and science books! Shop online and earn FREE and discounted
> books. Visit our Books from Britain bookstore at:
> http://www.UsborneAmerica.com. Home business opportunity information
> available onsite. Email SharonVE@aol.com or call 888-474-8499 toll
> free. Sharon Vander Ende, Independent Executive Supervisor.
> _________
>
> GNARLY MATH
> Gnarlymath.com
>
> LIKE TO REFRESH YOUR MATH SKILLS? And stimulate your creative
> thinking? Then order our CD-ROM Solid Gold Gnarly Math, the only CD
> which teaches Algebra, Geometry, Trig, Statistics, Topology, and
> Numbers. It's filled with ideas that'll make math fun and
> easy--guaranteed! Order it at http://www.gnarlymath.com , where you
> can also subscribe to our free hilarious math newsletter. This month
> the newsletter takes you to China in Marco Polo's time, where you'll
> see THE WORLD'S FIRST SEISMOGRAPH DETECTING A FAR-AWAY EARTHQUAKE!
> _________
>
> GIVE YOUR CHILD THE HEADSPROUT READING ADVANTAGE
> Headsprout.com
>
> Headsprout Reading is the fun, Internet-delivered beginning reading
> program that will give your child a real advantage by systematically
> teaching essential skills and strategies ensuring reading success and
> confidence. Your child will really enjoy our fun, animated,
> interactive episodes. After just five 20-minute episodes, children
> read their first Headsprout books. Act quickly. For a limited time,
> Headsprout Reading is available free at: http://www.headsprout.com .
> Please enter the promotional code: HENJ1
>
> _________
>
> HOME EDUCATION MAGAZINE
> http://www.home-ed-magazine.com
>
> Take a look at what you'll miss if you haven't read the current Home
> Education Magazine. The September/October issue features articles on
> a homeschool camp, dots (you'll have to read it to find out), car
> schooling (don't we all?), homeschooling on the move and more. From
> the columnists: the Kaseman's take on HSLDA; Becky Rupp helps your
> memory; David Albert climbs the beanstalk; and Carol Narigon (that's
> me) gives advice on the beginning and ending of the homeschool year.
> Other columnists include Barbara Theisen, Peter Kowalke, Linda
> Dobson, and Laura Weldon.
>
> With this issue of HEM Online News we are offering a one year
> subscription to Home Education Magazine at a 30% discount. See:
> http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/ORD/_frm_newsub.html
>
> A single issue is $6.50. Home Education Magazine, PO Box 1083,
> Tonasket WA 98855; for orders: toll-free 1-800-236-3278; email
> orders@home-ed-magazine.com. MC/Visa cards accepted. DON'T MISS IT!
>
> _________
>
> ^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^
>
> FINAL WORD
>
> "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
> tomorrow in Australia." ~ Charles Schultz ~
>
> ^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^
>
> Thanks for reading HEM's Online News! Pass it on to your friends! To
> subscribe, visit our web site at
> http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/wlcm_hemnewsltr.html or send an email
> to majordomo@home-ed-magazine.com with the words subscribe
> hem-online-newsletter followed by your name@your address.com in the
> body of the email. (e.g. subscribe hem-online-newsletter
> youremailaddress). To unsubscribe, send an email to
> majordomo@home-ed-magazine.com with the words unsubscribe
> hem-online-newsletter followed by your name@your address.com in the
> body of the email. (e.g. unsubscribe hem-online-newsletter
> youremailaddress). To change the address at which you receive the
> newsletter, unsubscribe your old address and then subscribe to your
> new one.
>
> See you next month!
>
> Carol Narigon, Newsletter Editor
> HEM-Newsletter@home-ed-magazine.com
> Mark and Helen Hegener, Publishers of Home Education Magazine
>
>
>