Hooters? or Deacons?
Posted by: agapetoo <agapetoo@...>
You know guys after reading this and several other replies. We perhaps need to ask ourselves, why these hooter deacons are so compliant to obvious immorality.
Why would my deacons who know about a staff member who was caught red-handed in a previous church downloading pedophilia... do nothing?
Why Bro. Terry's Deacons refused to support him as he shared a couple of weeks ago.
Perhaps our spiritual training needs to take place with our men at a deeper level. Have we made them church managers and not servants of God? The Diakonos? diakonos
If these men who are called out ones to be servants of the New Testament church are not spiritual men who stand on the Word of God no matter what then have a deep, deep problem in our churches. My fear is that we have a very deep problem in most Baptist churches... because Our leadership is carnal... good guys, but carnal.
God's Word never indicates we are to call good guys, but spiritual men to serve in the office of the Diakonos. 1 Tim 3 Maybe we need to focus more into helping our men become more like Christ, rather than more like deacon Jones, or Pastor Smith. I know it will be a difficult task, because it is sort of like witnessing to family member, in that they are the toughest... but then again perhaps the most rewarding too.
These are not words of rebuke towards any of you... but just trying to ferret out why in the world these things that are so obvious continue to happen, hurting our churches, our ministries, our families, and I believe our Lord Jesus....
If God allows me, I for one will commit to more ministry, at a deeper level with my deacons.
Please pray for us as we meet with a pulpit committee this weekend.
Your Friend in Christ,
Bro. Lynn
"Danny L. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:
Bro Pete:
Just read your email. We will be praying for you. Just continue
preaching the Word of God and HOLD ON to the godly values that God
has place in your heart. God will provide the strengh and the
guidance you need to deal with this situation.
In the Master's service,
Bro. Danny Brown
---- Original Message ----
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: FW: [PastorMail] Hooters?
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2002 23:02:00 -0500
What a Sunday! We have a deacon (!) in our church that blew up,
slammed down
his Bible, and stormed out of the Deacon's meeting tonight shouting
and
vowing never to come back to the church. Why did all this happen? Our
associate Pastor for Youth took a "Hooters" hat away from his son,
who wore
it to church during Vacation Bible School last week-after repeated
warnings
that he was going to do it if he didn't take it off. Now mind you,
this
whole family goes to Hooters every chance they get. This deacon said
in the
deacon's meeting that a hooters hat (or shirt, which he, the deacon,
actually wore to church one night) didn't mean a thing and since we
had
never been there, our problem was that our minds were in the gutter.
His son (high school sophomore) certainly knows what it means-he had a
Hooters shirt on when the youth group was about to leave for a
Christian
concert a few months back and I happened to ask him if he knew what it
meant. He used some graphic language and told me. I then informed him
that
he couldn't go to the concert with that shirt on, (our youth Pastor
was too
shocked to even speak) and he just shrugged, said "okay" and went
home. He
has since told me that since his mom and dad don't have a problem with
Hooters, (I find her acceptance of her son and husband wearing these
items
even more incredible), we shouldn't have a problem with him wearing it
either. This "Hooters mom" caused a family to leave the church last
summer
by angrily demanding that a mom do something about her daughter
wearing
short skirts in front of her son. Amazing.
To top everything off tonight, (after this deacon left the meeting),
I asked
what the deacons what they would think if I wore a Playboy shirt in
the
pulpit. Know what response I got? Nothing! Not a word.
Dear friends, I am really saddened. I have a terrible case of "I'm
preaching
and teaching the Word and no one gives a hoot", to use a play on
words. If
this is the real moral condition of our folks in this church, after
nearly 7
years of ministry here, maybe I should stomp the dust from my feet
and leave
also. I'm sorry to burden this group with this, but I need two
things. One,
I need to know if I'm being overly sensitive or something here that I
shouldn't be? And two, I need prayer. Monday is coming and most of
you know
how Monday is with a minister. Tonight I really wish God had called
me to be
a shoe salesman. 🙁
Thanks and may God bless each one of you,
Pete Campbell
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