Re: Siin Enchantment Damage
Quote from Forum Archives on April 22, 2005, 6:05 pmPosted by: doughboyinc <doughboyinc@...>
Greetings.
You know, I never thought of giving them back their
lost MU's. I've always just gone by the rules and
have had them earn them back normally. But you ask a
good question, one that leads to others.
If MU's represent spiritual growth, then two
questions arise: in reality, how does spiritual
growth occur, and second, how do we represent it in a
game? If we go with the current DR model, it
represents that if you sin, you start to regress in
your maturity, and when you realize your sin, you have
to grow to get back to the point where you were.
However, is this an accurate picture of reality?
I know that, by God's grace, a struggle with sin can
often lead to more maturity. Not that sin is good,
but that when I am pulled out of it, I often find I
have learned more.
The Bible is clear on what the affects of sin are on
a Christian. They start to lose contact with all the
spiritual blessings of being in Christ. No longer is
prayer meaningfull, fellowship helpful, or reading the
Word fullfilling. Their growth atrophies (sp?). Is
there a biblical or experiential example of someone
sinning and de-maturing?
I've know a person who walked away from the Lord,
and is living a sinful life. Yet for all his sin, I
wouldn't say he's forgotten or unlearned what he
learned in being a Chritstian most of his life, but,
I'd say he has almost pushed those things aside,
buried the Sprit's convictions, and set off on his
own. If, by God's grace, he is restored in
repentence, I know he'd have to deal with the natural
consequences of his sin, but he'd also wouldn't think
he'd have to re-learn all he learned before, but that
he'd be reminded and restored, and would continue in
his growth where he left off. But this is just
speculation. Has anyone experienced someone restored?
What was the result on their spiritual maturity?
The only New Testament passage I can think of
dealing with someone falling away is in the letters to
the Corinthians. In I Corinthians, the sinful brother
is to be cut off from their fellowship so that he may
be saved. Then, in II Corinthians, he is to be
restored to the fellowship when he is forgiven. These
passages don't say anything about his growth, but
just that he is restored.
If (and this is a big 'If;' I can't claim to know
all the ways Grace works), the way God's grace works
is that someone who sins does not de-mature, but his
growth freezes, then maybe the way we should treat sin
enchantmetns is thus: the enchanted LR can't use
wordrunes or pray effectively, they can't gain any
more MU's, and TeamRunes can't be said by the group.
Should thier armor be affected as well? And as for
MU's lost, they should be restored when they come to
repentence.--- Joe Revesz <jrevesz@clevemed.com> wrote:
> I would like to know how you AMs handle damage from
> sin enchantments. Say
> that a LightRaider falls under a sin enchantment and
> takes maturity unit
> damage. When he is rescued from the enchantment, do
> you give back the
> maturity units that he lost or does he have to earn
> them again normally?
>
> Joe
>
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Posted by: doughboyinc <doughboyinc@...>
You know, I never thought of giving them back their
lost MU's. I've always just gone by the rules and
have had them earn them back normally. But you ask a
good question, one that leads to others.
If MU's represent spiritual growth, then two
questions arise: in reality, how does spiritual
growth occur, and second, how do we represent it in a
game? If we go with the current DR model, it
represents that if you sin, you start to regress in
your maturity, and when you realize your sin, you have
to grow to get back to the point where you were.
However, is this an accurate picture of reality?
I know that, by God's grace, a struggle with sin can
often lead to more maturity. Not that sin is good,
but that when I am pulled out of it, I often find I
have learned more.
The Bible is clear on what the affects of sin are on
a Christian. They start to lose contact with all the
spiritual blessings of being in Christ. No longer is
prayer meaningfull, fellowship helpful, or reading the
Word fullfilling. Their growth atrophies (sp?). Is
there a biblical or experiential example of someone
sinning and de-maturing?
I've know a person who walked away from the Lord,
and is living a sinful life. Yet for all his sin, I
wouldn't say he's forgotten or unlearned what he
learned in being a Chritstian most of his life, but,
I'd say he has almost pushed those things aside,
buried the Sprit's convictions, and set off on his
own. If, by God's grace, he is restored in
repentence, I know he'd have to deal with the natural
consequences of his sin, but he'd also wouldn't think
he'd have to re-learn all he learned before, but that
he'd be reminded and restored, and would continue in
his growth where he left off. But this is just
speculation. Has anyone experienced someone restored?
What was the result on their spiritual maturity?
The only New Testament passage I can think of
dealing with someone falling away is in the letters to
the Corinthians. In I Corinthians, the sinful brother
is to be cut off from their fellowship so that he may
be saved. Then, in II Corinthians, he is to be
restored to the fellowship when he is forgiven. These
passages don't say anything about his growth, but
just that he is restored.
If (and this is a big 'If;' I can't claim to know
all the ways Grace works), the way God's grace works
is that someone who sins does not de-mature, but his
growth freezes, then maybe the way we should treat sin
enchantmetns is thus: the enchanted LR can't use
wordrunes or pray effectively, they can't gain any
more MU's, and TeamRunes can't be said by the group.
Should thier armor be affected as well? And as for
MU's lost, they should be restored when they come to
repentence.
--- Joe Revesz <jrevesz@clevemed.com> wrote:
> I would like to know how you AMs handle damage from
> sin enchantments. Say
> that a LightRaider falls under a sin enchantment and
> takes maturity unit
> damage. When he is rescued from the enchantment, do
> you give back the
> maturity units that he lost or does he have to earn
> them again normally?
>
> Joe
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to:
> dragonraid-unsubscribe@welovegod.org
>
>
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