Quote from Forum Archives on October 15, 2001, 8:32 am

Posted by: lotzakdz <lotzakdz@...>

Julie, you made a very good point here. One thing i was thinking about as
i drove my daughter to science class this morn, was the issue of
presuming virtue in what we do or do not eat. The realities and facts
about diet are out there for people to find out, and the old adage about
as close to the source as possible is true, but heck, Paul said
essentialy that virtue and Christianity is not a dietary issue!

Being human, sinners and having temptions is the reality. I personally
thinking tobacco usage is gross, stupid, wasteful, and thoughtless. All
that said, my husband uses mouth tobacco, and although he knows that i
believe thsoe things, he is discrete, and i do not offer him rebuke and
disrespect over the issue. Our love bypasses that. He will have to
receive conviction on his own,

My concern is when people, like you said, put a lot of creedence and
effort into fad diets, and wat i call political diets, and then presume
virtue because of it. Been there, done that, and it was not a pretty
picture!

Do the best with what you have been given, seek the right things through
the Spirit for your family, respecct the effect as keepers at home that
you have upon others in your family, and food will take the place that is
deserves in your life. It is easy to concentrate too much on the food
issue and not enough on the faith issue, since we are mostly in charge of
it!

On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:48:24 -0500 "Duane and Julie Banks"
<dabanks@harbornet.net> writes:
> I just thought I would share my thoughts about this food issue. There
> are so many many theories out there. I believe that most of us are
> doing our best to maintain a healthy diet. I don't think that one
> person is doing it "right" and someone else is wrong. I was a
> vegetarian for many years. In 1998 I started eating meat. I was no
> more healthy then than I am now. I use lard in some foods (pie
> crust) and I use olive oil in others (stir fry). What difference
> does it make?? Some foods taste better prepared with different fats.
>
> One diet out there (the zone) specifies eating a high protein diet,
> another one out there (dont' remember, but the books are all over
> the place) specify eating a high carbo diet. It gets too confusing
> listening to these so called experts in the area. I think it can
> really get obsessive with some people ( I know that from personal
> experience, I am one of them). Whatever type of diet someone is on,
> another person will be able to argue it because of all the so called
> expert advice out there. I think as Christians it is best we just
> simply back away from worldly advice. Anything from this world is
> not from God. The Lord is not going to call us to run to the whole
> foods coop to buy all our foods because some people simply can not
> afford such things. Neither is he calling us to buy prepackaged high
> fat foods from the grocery store either. There is a balance there
> and we need to find it for ourselves and chase ridiculous "expert"
> advice out of our minds. There are even Christian "experts" out
> there.. silly, if you ask me. Only the good Lord knows what our
> bodies need, He created us. It is up to us to ask Him and listen to
> Him.
> I had a good friend of mine who was caught up in some "food advice
> of the week", say to me as I was pouring my good husband a cup of
> coffee, " Giving him his daily dose of poison now, eh?". I was ready
> to kill her. She went on a radical change in her diet listening to
> expert advice, got rid of her microwave, her bbq grill, her daily
> "poisons", threw out tons and tons of food from her freezer and
> cupboards lest it not be "OK" to eat. When I saw her 5 months later
> she was off that diet and eating all the stuff again that she had
> thrown away and had bought a new microwave, and she had never lost
> any weight from it all, nor got any healthier. Silly, silly, silly.
> Yes, she meant well and really thought she was doing the right
> thing, but I tell you, it really stung when she told me I was
> poisoning my husband! People can get down right nasty when they
> think their way is the right way and they "know" how bad things that
> you are doing/eating are.
> I am probably the only person on this list that smokes cigarettes. I
> KNOW how bad it is for me. I have watched people die from it,
> including one of my best friends. No one needs to tell me to quit
> because it is bad. I choose to smoke sometimes and other times I
> want to quit so badly and I pray about it and end up losing the
> battle. I am weak. I don't always do what is right for myself. My
> husband and I spend about $60 a week on cigarettes alone. That is a
> lot of money that could go elsewhere.. ETC,ETC. I am stupid, I am
> weak, I am human. I don't always do the right things. We have gone
> on similar things such as the food issues, whatever new way of
> quitting is out there, we have tried it. We don't do that anymore.
> Worldly things don't work for us. We know we must lean on our Lord
> and he will guide us through, but until we are ready to surrender,
> He will wait for us and love us anyways. We are good people dispite
> our failings. Our Lord knows we love him and in the meantime NO ONE
> should judge me on it and shame on anyone who does.
> Anyways, enuf of my ranting here. I just get tired of the "this is
> better than that" stuff.
> By the way, I am not cranky this morning 😉 I got a new bird
> yesterday and he is handsome! He is another rescue bird. I just love
> these guys. I have to run to Duluth today to get some more birdy
> supplies. That is the only thing I love shopping for.
> Oh, by the way...if you check on any bird list or dog list, or cat
> list, etc..you will see that there are discussions there over what
> you should feed or should not feed your animals too....silly.
> Take care and God bless, Julie
>
>

Kathryn in North Garden
"It must be obvious that liberty necessarily means freedom to choose
foolishly as well as wisely;
freedom to choose evil as well as good;freedom to suffer the rewards of
good judgment, and freedom to suffer the penalties of bad judgment. If
this is not true, the word ~FREEDOM~ has no meaning."

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