Re: [speakers] Damp vs. dry speakers
Quote from Forum Archives on April 20, 2015, 11:22 amPosted by: pwsharp <pwsharp@...>
From: pwsharp@gmail.comWhile you would expect a little flex from a dry paper cone, it should be
essentially stiff with the greatest flexibility found in the ribbed
outer ring section. I imagine a dampened cone would, by comparison, be a
dreadfully sloppy structure more prone to be affected by the air
adjacent than to actually move it. Just compare ANY damp sheet of paper
with its dry counterpart.I'm glad a couple of days drying out seems to have restored normality to
your gear! 🙂Peter Sharp
Dubuque, IAOn 18/04/2015 10:06 PM, Bill and Sherry Crann wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> Wow - I just had a major point driven home this week.
>
> I was asked to play bass for our community concert choir because they
> needed someone who could read sheets and improvise off chord charts for
> different songs. I showed up with my practice rig and my "big rig".
> I've been using the practice rig this winter (we live in Michigan), and
> had stored the big rig out in the garage. It's warmed up some but has
> been damp out there the last couple of weeks.
>
> So I showed up, tried using just the practice amp because they were
> going to mic it and put it through the house, but the director wanted a
> bass solo-ish part for one song and the smaller amp just didn't have the
> oomph or phatness of tone that I wanted. So I set up the big rig (bass
> to Presonus tone box to Crown power amp to a Carvin 4x10 with a horn)
> expecting that I'd need to turn it way down so I didn't blow the pianist
> across the stage.
>
> I turned on my rig, and proceeded to be horrified by the floppy, thin,
> wavery sound coming out of it. Talk about dead spots - I was only
> getting every other note to sound it seemed. I seriously was thinking
> maybe mice got into it while it was in the garage and had chewed up
> stuff that I couldn't see from the outside. It was especially bad on Fs
> and Bbs, which was going to suck badly because one bass-feature piece is
> in F 🙂 So I kept playing scales and it started sounding a little
> better, though nothing at all like my big rig should sound. After
> practice I was wracking my brain to figure out what was going on.
>
> The next time we got together - 2 days later - "my rig" was back. It
> sounded awesome - tight, punchy, growly, and LOUD (I did end up turning
> it way down at that point). I think it just needed to warm up and dry
> out (the cones are paper fiber) to get the mojo back. Everything seems
> to be working as it has in the past, and I think it was dampness and not
> mice that caused the issue.
>
> So I'm trying to think of where else I can store my equipment when I'm
> not using it 🙂 And if you've had equipment in storage in a not-ambient
> atmosphere, maybe it just needs to acclimate to sound right. Oddly
> enough we have played some venues when the humidity was high but I don't
> recall ever having my rig sound like it did that first night at practice
> - and I hope I never do again....
>
> Alternatively, has anyone tried "bagging" their equipment in such a
> storage situation, and does that keep out the moisture well enough? I'm
> not sure where I would store my equipment elsewhere, so the garage may
> be my only option.
>
> Grace,
> Sherry
>
>
>
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>
> /Horton the Elephant /
>
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Posted by: pwsharp <pwsharp@...>
While you would expect a little flex from a dry paper cone, it should be
essentially stiff with the greatest flexibility found in the ribbed
outer ring section. I imagine a dampened cone would, by comparison, be a
dreadfully sloppy structure more prone to be affected by the air
adjacent than to actually move it. Just compare ANY damp sheet of paper
with its dry counterpart.
I'm glad a couple of days drying out seems to have restored normality to
your gear! 🙂
Peter Sharp
Dubuque, IA
On 18/04/2015 10:06 PM, Bill and Sherry Crann wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> Wow - I just had a major point driven home this week.
>
> I was asked to play bass for our community concert choir because they
> needed someone who could read sheets and improvise off chord charts for
> different songs. I showed up with my practice rig and my "big rig".
> I've been using the practice rig this winter (we live in Michigan), and
> had stored the big rig out in the garage. It's warmed up some but has
> been damp out there the last couple of weeks.
>
> So I showed up, tried using just the practice amp because they were
> going to mic it and put it through the house, but the director wanted a
> bass solo-ish part for one song and the smaller amp just didn't have the
> oomph or phatness of tone that I wanted. So I set up the big rig (bass
> to Presonus tone box to Crown power amp to a Carvin 4x10 with a horn)
> expecting that I'd need to turn it way down so I didn't blow the pianist
> across the stage.
>
> I turned on my rig, and proceeded to be horrified by the floppy, thin,
> wavery sound coming out of it. Talk about dead spots - I was only
> getting every other note to sound it seemed. I seriously was thinking
> maybe mice got into it while it was in the garage and had chewed up
> stuff that I couldn't see from the outside. It was especially bad on Fs
> and Bbs, which was going to suck badly because one bass-feature piece is
> in F 🙂 So I kept playing scales and it started sounding a little
> better, though nothing at all like my big rig should sound. After
> practice I was wracking my brain to figure out what was going on.
>
> The next time we got together - 2 days later - "my rig" was back. It
> sounded awesome - tight, punchy, growly, and LOUD (I did end up turning
> it way down at that point). I think it just needed to warm up and dry
> out (the cones are paper fiber) to get the mojo back. Everything seems
> to be working as it has in the past, and I think it was dampness and not
> mice that caused the issue.
>
> So I'm trying to think of where else I can store my equipment when I'm
> not using it 🙂 And if you've had equipment in storage in a not-ambient
> atmosphere, maybe it just needs to acclimate to sound right. Oddly
> enough we have played some venues when the humidity was high but I don't
> recall ever having my rig sound like it did that first night at practice
> - and I hope I never do again....
>
> Alternatively, has anyone tried "bagging" their equipment in such a
> storage situation, and does that keep out the moisture well enough? I'm
> not sure where I would store my equipment elsewhere, so the garage may
> be my only option.
>
> Grace,
> Sherry
>
>
>
> --
> "A person's a person, no matter how small."
>
> /Horton the Elephant /
>
>
> --
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