Supporting the man of God- THE DISCUSSION IS OVER
Quote from Forum Archives on May 31, 2002, 8:30 amPosted by: jpeters <jpeters@...>
Hello Friends,If you would like to answer Brother Magby's questions about tithing, please contact him directly. thepreacherman@charter.netWe have gotten off track here into doctrinal debate. There were many good comments, but now we need to move on.There will be no more messages approved on this topic.Thanks for understanding. Now how about some outlines and illustrations? (I know, I sound like a broken record. 🙂Jack______________________________________________Pastor Jack Peters
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http://www.sermonseeds.org----- Original Message -----From: <a title=thepreacherman@charter.net href="mailto:thepreacherman@charter.net">Richard MagbyTo: <a title=pastormail@welovegod.org href="mailto:pastormail@welovegod.org">pastormail@welovegod.orgSent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:29 AMSubject: Re: [PastorMail] Supporting the man of GodFirst of all, will someone please answer the questions? Why was the tithe given? And why was it to be taken to the store house?Secondly my statement said nothing about giving the tithe to the man of God, not to say that it is wrong, it's about supporting the man of God. I did say that a fellow brother paid his tithe to me and I wasn't comfortable taking them.I do understand that Paul was a tent maker, but by choice, not because he had to do it as a living. When you study 1 Cor. 9:1-23, you will understand that Paul said that he had the right to live from the offerings of the church, but he choose not to. He had the power or right to do so, 1 Cor.9:14.The fact that one might have a salary is fine also, but it does not change the fact that those who rule well deserves double honor and the fact that muzzling the ox put a control on how much he can eat. If you read what I stated and go back and search the Scripture with an opened mind and not based on what you have been accustom to doing, you will find that it will be somewhat different, at least it should cause you to have questions. Again, if you enter the Scripture with a made up mind and a closed heart, you can not receive what the Scripture is saying. Paul said take the muzzle off the ox ( thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn), what did this mean, why did he say it? He was talking about caring for the man of God, wasn't he?Now I do know that the tithe or the tenth was given to support the Levites (Num. 18:28) and the priests (Num. 18:26), to assist in scared meals (Deut.14: 22-27), and to give aid to the poor; the fatherless, and the widows (Deut.14:28-29). The tithe was used primarily for the expenses of the worship of the Lord and for the support of the priests.Now one might say that we are all royal priests, and that I agree to, but we do not all serve in the temple. As a matter of fact, those who served in the temple then wasn't just some Joe Blow who walked off the street and confessed Jehovah and spoke in a few tongues,shouted up and down the isle and did a few miracles and they let him serve in the tabernacle or temple, no! They had to have certain blood flowing through their veins, they had to come from a certain tribe.So the tithe was taken to the store house for the support of the Levites (Num. 18:28) and the priests (Num. 18:26), to assist in scared meals (Deut.14: 22-27), and to give aid to the poor; the fatherless, and the widows (Deut.14:28-29). The tithe was used primarily for the expenses of the worship of the Lord and for the support of the priests.No we do not have a priesthood functioning as they did then, but we do have priest functioning in the capacity of caring for the house of God, ministering about holy things.This is my last reply on the subject, and I truly believe that you get the picture and it's your right to accept or reject it.But always remember, because it's strange to us does not necessarily mean that it is wrong.The truth is not based on our acceptance of a thing.1 Cor.9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers of the altar?:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.Gal. 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth all good things.Whatever the vaule of your soul is, that's what the man of God who minister to your spirit is worth.Pray for me pleasethepreacherman----- Original Message -----From: <a title=admin@williamburns.net href="mailto:admin@williamburns.net">burnsTo: <a title=pastormail@welovegod.org href="mailto:pastormail@welovegod.org">pastormail@welovegod.orgSent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:46 PMSubject: [PastorMail] Supporting the man of GodRichard,
I agree with Pastors Bob and Jim. And, will add that Paul was a tent maker by trade and that he supported himself as best he could given he was on the move at times (Thessalonica for example) or in jail. He personally did receive money from the Philippian church, Phil. 4. He did not take God's money, tithes. I think tithes belong to a person's home church.
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----- Original Message -----From: <a title=thepreacherman@charter.net href="mailto:thepreacherman@charter.net">Richard MagbyTo: <a title=pastormail@welovegod.org href="mailto:pastormail@welovegod.org">pastormail@welovegod.orgSent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:29 AMSubject: Re: [PastorMail] Supporting the man of GodFirst of all, will someone please answer the questions? Why was the tithe given? And why was it to be taken to the store house?Secondly my statement said nothing about giving the tithe to the man of God, not to say that it is wrong, it's about supporting the man of God. I did say that a fellow brother paid his tithe to me and I wasn't comfortable taking them.I do understand that Paul was a tent maker, but by choice, not because he had to do it as a living. When you study 1 Cor. 9:1-23, you will understand that Paul said that he had the right to live from the offerings of the church, but he choose not to. He had the power or right to do so, 1 Cor.9:14.The fact that one might have a salary is fine also, but it does not change the fact that those who rule well deserves double honor and the fact that muzzling the ox put a control on how much he can eat. If you read what I stated and go back and search the Scripture with an opened mind and not based on what you have been accustom to doing, you will find that it will be somewhat different, at least it should cause you to have questions. Again, if you enter the Scripture with a made up mind and a closed heart, you can not receive what the Scripture is saying. Paul said take the muzzle off the ox ( thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn), what did this mean, why did he say it? He was talking about caring for the man of God, wasn't he?Now I do know that the tithe or the tenth was given to support the Levites (Num. 18:28) and the priests (Num. 18:26), to assist in scared meals (Deut.14: 22-27), and to give aid to the poor; the fatherless, and the widows (Deut.14:28-29). The tithe was used primarily for the expenses of the worship of the Lord and for the support of the priests.Now one might say that we are all royal priests, and that I agree to, but we do not all serve in the temple. As a matter of fact, those who served in the temple then wasn't just some Joe Blow who walked off the street and confessed Jehovah and spoke in a few tongues,shouted up and down the isle and did a few miracles and they let him serve in the tabernacle or temple, no! They had to have certain blood flowing through their veins, they had to come from a certain tribe.So the tithe was taken to the store house for the support of the Levites (Num. 18:28) and the priests (Num. 18:26), to assist in scared meals (Deut.14: 22-27), and to give aid to the poor; the fatherless, and the widows (Deut.14:28-29). The tithe was used primarily for the expenses of the worship of the Lord and for the support of the priests.No we do not have a priesthood functioning as they did then, but we do have priest functioning in the capacity of caring for the house of God, ministering about holy things.This is my last reply on the subject, and I truly believe that you get the picture and it's your right to accept or reject it.But always remember, because it's strange to us does not necessarily mean that it is wrong.The truth is not based on our acceptance of a thing.1 Cor.9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers of the altar?:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.Gal. 6:6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth all good things.Whatever the vaule of your soul is, that's what the man of God who minister to your spirit is worth.Pray for me pleasethepreacherman----- Original Message -----From: <a title=admin@williamburns.net href="mailto:admin@williamburns.net">burnsTo: <a title=pastormail@welovegod.org href="mailto:pastormail@welovegod.org">pastormail@welovegod.orgSent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:46 PMSubject: [PastorMail] Supporting the man of GodRichard,
I agree with Pastors Bob and Jim. And, will add that Paul was a tent maker by trade and that he supported himself as best he could given he was on the move at times (Thessalonica for example) or in jail. He personally did receive money from the Philippian church, Phil. 4. He did not take God's money, tithes. I think tithes belong to a person's home church.
Bill Burns
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