WARNING TO AMERICA - prophet from India
Quote from Forum Archives on July 20, 2004, 7:16 pmPosted by: revival4 <revival4@...>
Forwarded by: Bbrooksturner@aol.com"PROPHETIC MESSAGE to the USA CHURCH"
-by Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj (-prophet from India).
Delivered to the church in St. Louis, June 2002.Don't you believe any of the false prophets who preached to you
after 9/11 saying it was not a judgment of God.... Two days
before 9/11 happened, a dear friend of mine, a very saintly prophet
of God, was taken up in the spirit to Heaven. And while he stood
before the presence of the Almighty God, the Lord Jesus Christ
called forth for a mighty, powerful angel. He came and stood
before the Lord Jesus Christ. And a fiery torch was given to this
angel. As soon as the angel held the torch, he became enflamed
(engulfed) with fire from the crown of his head to the sole of his feet.
And then, the command was given to the angel, GO FORTH! And
cast this fire down upon the nations of the world. And the angel
and this prophet came down, and they stood in the mid-heavens.
And the angel told him, now see what happens. And the angel
took the fiery torch in his hand and cast down fires in several parts
of the earth. And when the fires were thrown, the angel told him,
>From now onward, there will be bombings, fires and destructions in
many, many nations around the world. That (vision) was (given to
this prophet) on the seventh of September (of 2001).On the eighth of September, when he was conducting a fasting and
prayer meeting in his church, the same angel came and stood by
his side again, and repeated into his ear, audibly, word for word,
every event that he saw the previous day. And the angel commanded
him, Now, declare to your church everything that you saw and you
heard. And with great fear and trembling, he shared what he saw
and what he heard. And they all prayed. Several days later came
the judgment upon America. It was not an ordinary terrorist attack.
If you read in the Old Testament, the five books of Moses, every time
Israel would go away, go astray from the commandments and laws
of God, the Bible says very clearly, God will turn her enemies
against her. The hornets and the wild beasts will be let loose to
come and create havoc in the land of Israel among the Israelites.
If God can do that to the chosen nation, the chosen people, how
much more YOU? God removed his protective cover, removed his
protective hand, because you constantly turned your back against
the Almighty God.I was supposed to speak with you about the crucified life, as I
mentioned last night. But today, as I was here during the worship
service, an angel of the Lord came and stood before me, and he
told me to do something else. That is what is happening right now.
Exodus 34:5 onwards..."And the Lord passed by before Him and
proclaimed, The Lord, the Lord God, merciful and gracious,
longsuffering and abundant in goodness and truth. Keeping mercy
for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin. And
that will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquities of the
fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, to the
third and to the fourth generation."Please observe the last part in verse seven, "visiting the iniquities
of the fathers upon the children and upon the children's children
unto the third and fourth generation. I came well prepared to
continue preaching on the crucified life. But as we were deeply
worshiping the Lord, I saw the chief prince angel over the nation of
the United States of America. He came and stood before me. I
first began seeing chief prince angels of nations when I went to
South Africa. That was the first time that I ever saw a chief prince
angel that is in charge of overlooking the affairs of an entire nation.
And he gave me a word concerning the nation, concerning the will
of God, and what God's purpose is for the nation. From then
onwards, for the many, many nations that I would go to, the respective
angels of those nations would come to me and give me a word for
the nation: what is God's word, what does God think about the
nation, what has been happening in the nation, in the churches, and
what is going to come to pass.So when the angel of the United States of America came and stood
before me, I tremble and quake every time I see an angel of a nation,
I always tremble and quake in my heart, because of the awesome
anointing and authority they have. When he came and stood before
me, he told me, An awesome judgment is going to come upon
America very soon. An awesome judgment. When he spoke, I felt
a fear, a Godly fear running through my bones and my spirit. This
is not a judgment that would destroy the entire nation, but something
quite similar to what happened with the twin towers. But, it can all
be prevented, IF RIVERS OF INTERCESSION flow in the nation.
This is the word that he told me to speak.And I saw, that if you will take this seriously and pray, a huge river
flowing all throughout the center of your country. If it flows - a river
of tears, rivers of intercession (and as the angel was speaking, I
saw this huge white river flowing from the east to the west)-- only
that would prevent this judgment that could come. And then I saw
this angel, where he was positioned and where he was standing,
guarding over the United States of America. He was standing
very near to where the Statue of Liberty is. A huge, gigantic angel!
If you read in Revelation, chapter ten, it is written, John saw an
angel so huge and mighty that one of his legs was on the earth,
the other leg was on the sea, and he stretched out his hand and he
reached to the sun. Can you imagine what a gigantic figure he
must have been? Probably as tall as the Sears tower or the former
World Trade Center. Such a huge, gigantic angel standing guard
over the United States of America! My dearly beloved brothers and
sisters, as he was speaking these words, he said this is the word
that you should preach tonight. And then I saw the heavens open,
and from the throne of God, this word came to me: Visiting the
iniquities of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's
children unto the third and to the fourth generation. The judgments
of God. Don't you believe any of the false prophets who preach to
you after 9/11 saying, it was not a judgment of God. I tell you, as
a non-American, and as a holy prophet of God, what happened was
a judgment from God....You know, when I first came to America, in 1991, on the fourth of
July, your Independence Day, I was in a conference scheduled to
speak. As I was worshiping the Lord, I saw the heavens open
before me, and the Lord Jesus Christ stood there, and He told me,
"Now I am going to give you a word for this nation." Among the
three things that He showed me, they all have come to pass, but
I will tell you one thing that concerns you right now: I saw the flag
of America. -- You know, I have never seen a people like the
Americans, who love their nation so much, and who are so patriotic
about their great nation. That is good. When I traveled in your
country, I used to see these huge, gigantic flags that fly so
majestically in some parts of the country. I feel very proud, as if I
myself was an American. The same American flag, I saw in the
heavens. But instead of flying in the right direction, it was flying in
the reverse direction. And the Lord Jesus Christ was standing at
the flag and knocking on the flag. And as He was knocking, I saw
the words, LAST CALL flashing. Last Call was flashing and flashing.
Then the word of the Lord came unto me, "This nation -- the flag
that you see flying in the reverse direction is the heart of this nation
that has turned away from righteousness, and is walking toward unrighteousness.She has turned her back towards Me. Yet, I am still calling her.
Last call, last call, last call. And for the three months that I was
in the U.S. during that period, every church and every conference
that I went to, I was commanded to share this vision. And ask the
American people to pray for your country. But you know, I was
very aghast to notice that the Americans, especially American
Christians, take very lightly such words, because you think that
the non-Christian Americans deserve God's judgment. You really
don't love your country. You think you love your country, but deep
down in your heart, you don't really love your country. You have
such a self-righteous attitude, thinking that the non-Christians
deserve the judgment of God, and you deserve Heaven. Don't you
think that when the twin towers came down, many Christians also
perished? When the economy of New York City came to a
standstill, how many Christians also suffered economic losses, job
layoffs. Thirty-thousand Indians working in New York City were sent
back home. Overnight, 30,000 Indians lost their jobs. They came
back home, among them, many Christians. They wrote to me for
prayer. When the judgment of God comes, remember: even the
righteous may have to suffer. When God's judgments came upon
Israel, and she was taken captive to Babylon, righteous Daniel was
among them! He was a captive. When Israel was under the captivity
of another foreign nation, righteous Jeremiah was there! Righteous
Nehemiah was there. The righteous saints also go into the captivity!
Don't you forget that. Don't forget that. You have been duped by
all the false teachers and false prophets in your country, deluding
you and deceiving you into thinking that no matter what happens,
you will always be protected. As a result, you are suffering from
spiritual lethargy, hearing only that which you want to hear and
switching off when you don't want to hear. You know, of you it is
written in the Bible, "those who have itching ears, only wanting to
hear pleasant words." My dear brothers and sisters, the judgments
of God are real. The countdown has begun.You know, India and Pakistan came this close to an all-out nuclear
war. If the war took place, the whole of Pakistan would have been
wiped out. Four northern states in India would have been wiped
out. And the defense analysts predicted that Pakistan would have
been uninhabitable for thirty years because of the nuclear dust that
would be hanging over the country. The whole of north India would
have been wiped out. Nepal would be wiped out. Tibet would be
affected. They came this close to an all-out nuclear war. Somehow,
God spared us.My dear brothers and sisters, if you read the Holy Bible, forget about
church doctrines, forget about vain traditions and teachings of men
who only want to bilk you out of your money. I am declaring to you
the oracles of God right now. From Genesis to Revelation, if you
read the Holy Bible, it shows very clearly two things: redemptive
judgment. God judges! Because He is a good God. From the
garden of Eden all the way up to the book of Revelation, you will
see these two themes: love and judgment. Not just love and love,
and bless me and bless me. This is how your prophets and teachers
are teaching you today. And they have not only corrupted the
American church, they are corrupting the Indian church. They are
corrupting the Eastern church, they're corrupting the African church
and they're corrupting the European church. It (unbalanced teaching)
has been exported!...Many people teach, If you are once saved, you are forever saved.
That is a teaching from the pit of hell. Once saved is not forever
saved. (Technically, I do believe that, but not practically.) Not from
the viewpoint of God, because it is written in Matthew 24:13, "He that
endures until the end, only HE shall be saved." Enduring until the
end! Lot's wife did not endure until the end. As she was on the road
to redemption, she left behind her heart in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Her heart pulled her back. And she turned and she saw, SAVED
but then suddenly DESTROYED! Don't be deceived! I tell you one
more time with great love and all humility, don't be deceived that once
saved is always saved. Don't be deceived that just because you are
a tongue-talking Christian that you will be saved and caught up in the
rapture. Don't be deceived. He that endures until the end, only he
shall be saved. Look at the story of Nineveh. Jonah went there,
preaching. It took three days to walk around the whole city. For
three days, he was crying out, "REPENT! If not, then in forty days
you will be destroyed!" From the king to the animals, they all fasted
for forty days. They repented in sackcloth. God's heart was moved
with compassion. Judgment was delayed, but Nineveh was eventually
destroyed because she only repented for a season, like you (America).After 9/11, the whole nation appeared holy and repentant for a season.
Now you are back to normal. You are back to your filth. You are
back to your corruption, you are back to your sins. You have forgotten
the repentance you did after 9/11. The vows you have made unto the
living God after 9/11, you have forgotten! The altars that you had
repaired after 9/11, you have forgotten! And they are back in ruins
again! The Scriptures say, "My Spirit shall not strive with man
forever." My spirit shall not strive with man forever.Now come with me to the New Testament, in Luke, chapter nineteen.
The Lord Jesus Christ looks at the city of Jerusalem, His beloved
city, His own city, He has no other city except Jerusalem. He looked
at the city, and He beat His face and He cried, and cried and cried.
No one had ever seen the Lord Jesus crying like that before. This
was even before He cried at Lazarus's tomb. He was beating His
face, beating his breast and crying bitterly. Why? Because the
very people for whom He came, as the very personification of
redemption, they were going to reject the Messiah. And what would
result from that rejection? Judgment. The Lord Jesus predicted, "Oh
Jerusalem, you are going to be destroyed! They are going to siege
you around! You are going to be utterly destroyed! Your city will
be burned, you will become ashes!" He cried, like a mother crying
for her baby. Thirty-three and a half years after the Lord Jesus Christ
was crucified, Jerusalem was burned to ashes. Not one time, but
three times, the city was burned to ashes. My dear brothers and
sisters, did she repent?
Posted by: revival4 <revival4@...>
"PROPHETIC MESSAGE to the USA CHURCH"
-by Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj (-prophet from India).
Delivered to the church in St. Louis, June 2002.
Don't you believe any of the false prophets who preached to you
after 9/11 saying it was not a judgment of God.... Two days
before 9/11 happened, a dear friend of mine, a very saintly prophet
of God, was taken up in the spirit to Heaven. And while he stood
before the presence of the Almighty God, the Lord Jesus Christ
called forth for a mighty, powerful angel. He came and stood
before the Lord Jesus Christ. And a fiery torch was given to this
angel. As soon as the angel held the torch, he became enflamed
(engulfed) with fire from the crown of his head to the sole of his feet.
And then, the command was given to the angel, GO FORTH! And
cast this fire down upon the nations of the world. And the angel
and this prophet came down, and they stood in the mid-heavens.
And the angel told him, now see what happens. And the angel
took the fiery torch in his hand and cast down fires in several parts
of the earth. And when the fires were thrown, the angel told him,
>From now onward, there will be bombings, fires and destructions in
many, many nations around the world. That (vision) was (given to
this prophet) on the seventh of September (of 2001).
On the eighth of September, when he was conducting a fasting and
prayer meeting in his church, the same angel came and stood by
his side again, and repeated into his ear, audibly, word for word,
every event that he saw the previous day. And the angel commanded
him, Now, declare to your church everything that you saw and you
heard. And with great fear and trembling, he shared what he saw
and what he heard. And they all prayed. Several days later came
the judgment upon America. It was not an ordinary terrorist attack.
If you read in the Old Testament, the five books of Moses, every time
Israel would go away, go astray from the commandments and laws
of God, the Bible says very clearly, God will turn her enemies
against her. The hornets and the wild beasts will be let loose to
come and create havoc in the land of Israel among the Israelites.
If God can do that to the chosen nation, the chosen people, how
much more YOU? God removed his protective cover, removed his
protective hand, because you constantly turned your back against
the Almighty God.
I was supposed to speak with you about the crucified life, as I
mentioned last night. But today, as I was here during the worship
service, an angel of the Lord came and stood before me, and he
told me to do something else. That is what is happening right now.
Exodus 34:5 onwards..."And the Lord passed by before Him and
proclaimed, The Lord, the Lord God, merciful and gracious,
longsuffering and abundant in goodness and truth. Keeping mercy
for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin. And
that will by no means clear the guilty, visiting the iniquities of the
fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, to the
third and to the fourth generation."
Please observe the last part in verse seven, "visiting the iniquities
of the fathers upon the children and upon the children's children
unto the third and fourth generation. I came well prepared to
continue preaching on the crucified life. But as we were deeply
worshiping the Lord, I saw the chief prince angel over the nation of
the United States of America. He came and stood before me. I
first began seeing chief prince angels of nations when I went to
South Africa. That was the first time that I ever saw a chief prince
angel that is in charge of overlooking the affairs of an entire nation.
And he gave me a word concerning the nation, concerning the will
of God, and what God's purpose is for the nation. From then
onwards, for the many, many nations that I would go to, the respective
angels of those nations would come to me and give me a word for
the nation: what is God's word, what does God think about the
nation, what has been happening in the nation, in the churches, and
what is going to come to pass.
So when the angel of the United States of America came and stood
before me, I tremble and quake every time I see an angel of a nation,
I always tremble and quake in my heart, because of the awesome
anointing and authority they have. When he came and stood before
me, he told me, An awesome judgment is going to come upon
America very soon. An awesome judgment. When he spoke, I felt
a fear, a Godly fear running through my bones and my spirit. This
is not a judgment that would destroy the entire nation, but something
quite similar to what happened with the twin towers. But, it can all
be prevented, IF RIVERS OF INTERCESSION flow in the nation.
This is the word that he told me to speak.
And I saw, that if you will take this seriously and pray, a huge river
flowing all throughout the center of your country. If it flows - a river
of tears, rivers of intercession (and as the angel was speaking, I
saw this huge white river flowing from the east to the west)-- only
that would prevent this judgment that could come. And then I saw
this angel, where he was positioned and where he was standing,
guarding over the United States of America. He was standing
very near to where the Statue of Liberty is. A huge, gigantic angel!
If you read in Revelation, chapter ten, it is written, John saw an
angel so huge and mighty that one of his legs was on the earth,
the other leg was on the sea, and he stretched out his hand and he
reached to the sun. Can you imagine what a gigantic figure he
must have been? Probably as tall as the Sears tower or the former
World Trade Center. Such a huge, gigantic angel standing guard
over the United States of America! My dearly beloved brothers and
sisters, as he was speaking these words, he said this is the word
that you should preach tonight. And then I saw the heavens open,
and from the throne of God, this word came to me: Visiting the
iniquities of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's
children unto the third and to the fourth generation. The judgments
of God. Don't you believe any of the false prophets who preach to
you after 9/11 saying, it was not a judgment of God. I tell you, as
a non-American, and as a holy prophet of God, what happened was
a judgment from God....
You know, when I first came to America, in 1991, on the fourth of
July, your Independence Day, I was in a conference scheduled to
speak. As I was worshiping the Lord, I saw the heavens open
before me, and the Lord Jesus Christ stood there, and He told me,
"Now I am going to give you a word for this nation." Among the
three things that He showed me, they all have come to pass, but
I will tell you one thing that concerns you right now: I saw the flag
of America. -- You know, I have never seen a people like the
Americans, who love their nation so much, and who are so patriotic
about their great nation. That is good. When I traveled in your
country, I used to see these huge, gigantic flags that fly so
majestically in some parts of the country. I feel very proud, as if I
myself was an American. The same American flag, I saw in the
heavens. But instead of flying in the right direction, it was flying in
the reverse direction. And the Lord Jesus Christ was standing at
the flag and knocking on the flag. And as He was knocking, I saw
the words, LAST CALL flashing. Last Call was flashing and flashing.
Then the word of the Lord came unto me, "This nation -- the flag
that you see flying in the reverse direction is the heart of this nation
that has turned away from righteousness, and is walking toward unrighteousness.
She has turned her back towards Me. Yet, I am still calling her.
Last call, last call, last call. And for the three months that I was
in the U.S. during that period, every church and every conference
that I went to, I was commanded to share this vision. And ask the
American people to pray for your country. But you know, I was
very aghast to notice that the Americans, especially American
Christians, take very lightly such words, because you think that
the non-Christian Americans deserve God's judgment. You really
don't love your country. You think you love your country, but deep
down in your heart, you don't really love your country. You have
such a self-righteous attitude, thinking that the non-Christians
deserve the judgment of God, and you deserve Heaven. Don't you
think that when the twin towers came down, many Christians also
perished? When the economy of New York City came to a
standstill, how many Christians also suffered economic losses, job
layoffs. Thirty-thousand Indians working in New York City were sent
back home. Overnight, 30,000 Indians lost their jobs. They came
back home, among them, many Christians. They wrote to me for
prayer. When the judgment of God comes, remember: even the
righteous may have to suffer. When God's judgments came upon
Israel, and she was taken captive to Babylon, righteous Daniel was
among them! He was a captive. When Israel was under the captivity
of another foreign nation, righteous Jeremiah was there! Righteous
Nehemiah was there. The righteous saints also go into the captivity!
Don't you forget that. Don't forget that. You have been duped by
all the false teachers and false prophets in your country, deluding
you and deceiving you into thinking that no matter what happens,
you will always be protected. As a result, you are suffering from
spiritual lethargy, hearing only that which you want to hear and
switching off when you don't want to hear. You know, of you it is
written in the Bible, "those who have itching ears, only wanting to
hear pleasant words." My dear brothers and sisters, the judgments
of God are real. The countdown has begun.
You know, India and Pakistan came this close to an all-out nuclear
war. If the war took place, the whole of Pakistan would have been
wiped out. Four northern states in India would have been wiped
out. And the defense analysts predicted that Pakistan would have
been uninhabitable for thirty years because of the nuclear dust that
would be hanging over the country. The whole of north India would
have been wiped out. Nepal would be wiped out. Tibet would be
affected. They came this close to an all-out nuclear war. Somehow,
God spared us.
My dear brothers and sisters, if you read the Holy Bible, forget about
church doctrines, forget about vain traditions and teachings of men
who only want to bilk you out of your money. I am declaring to you
the oracles of God right now. From Genesis to Revelation, if you
read the Holy Bible, it shows very clearly two things: redemptive
judgment. God judges! Because He is a good God. From the
garden of Eden all the way up to the book of Revelation, you will
see these two themes: love and judgment. Not just love and love,
and bless me and bless me. This is how your prophets and teachers
are teaching you today. And they have not only corrupted the
American church, they are corrupting the Indian church. They are
corrupting the Eastern church, they're corrupting the African church
and they're corrupting the European church. It (unbalanced teaching)
has been exported!...
Many people teach, If you are once saved, you are forever saved.
That is a teaching from the pit of hell. Once saved is not forever
saved. (Technically, I do believe that, but not practically.) Not from
the viewpoint of God, because it is written in Matthew 24:13, "He that
endures until the end, only HE shall be saved." Enduring until the
end! Lot's wife did not endure until the end. As she was on the road
to redemption, she left behind her heart in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Her heart pulled her back. And she turned and she saw, SAVED
but then suddenly DESTROYED! Don't be deceived! I tell you one
more time with great love and all humility, don't be deceived that once
saved is always saved. Don't be deceived that just because you are
a tongue-talking Christian that you will be saved and caught up in the
rapture. Don't be deceived. He that endures until the end, only he
shall be saved. Look at the story of Nineveh. Jonah went there,
preaching. It took three days to walk around the whole city. For
three days, he was crying out, "REPENT! If not, then in forty days
you will be destroyed!" From the king to the animals, they all fasted
for forty days. They repented in sackcloth. God's heart was moved
with compassion. Judgment was delayed, but Nineveh was eventually
destroyed because she only repented for a season, like you (America).
After 9/11, the whole nation appeared holy and repentant for a season.
Now you are back to normal. You are back to your filth. You are
back to your corruption, you are back to your sins. You have forgotten
the repentance you did after 9/11. The vows you have made unto the
living God after 9/11, you have forgotten! The altars that you had
repaired after 9/11, you have forgotten! And they are back in ruins
again! The Scriptures say, "My Spirit shall not strive with man
forever." My spirit shall not strive with man forever.
Now come with me to the New Testament, in Luke, chapter nineteen.
The Lord Jesus Christ looks at the city of Jerusalem, His beloved
city, His own city, He has no other city except Jerusalem. He looked
at the city, and He beat His face and He cried, and cried and cried.
No one had ever seen the Lord Jesus crying like that before. This
was even before He cried at Lazarus's tomb. He was beating His
face, beating his breast and crying bitterly. Why? Because the
very people for whom He came, as the very personification of
redemption, they were going to reject the Messiah. And what would
result from that rejection? Judgment. The Lord Jesus predicted, "Oh
Jerusalem, you are going to be destroyed! They are going to siege
you around! You are going to be utterly destroyed! Your city will
be burned, you will become ashes!" He cried, like a mother crying
for her baby. Thirty-three and a half years after the Lord Jesus Christ
was crucified, Jerusalem was burned to ashes. Not one time, but
three times, the city was burned to ashes. My dear brothers and
sisters, did she repent?