WHAT if MANIFESTATIONS DON'T STOP??
Quote from Forum Archives on September 4, 2008, 9:16 pmPosted by: prophetic <prophetic@...>
WHAT if MANIFESTATIONS DON'T STOP??3 TESTIMONIES Are BELOW:
(1) Geri McGhee writes:
I received the following email from a child of God who has been
victimized by "soaking" in what she was told was the Holy Spirit.
Perhaps, there are others of you who are being tormented after an
experience with what you thought was the Holy Spirit; when in
reality, you were taken captive by a demonic spirit(s)..."Dear Geri: I remember going to some meetings where they
believed in all of this that you have mentioned in your message on
"soaking". I have experienced the shaking, tingling, electrical
sensation going through my body, along with various other things
that they said was the Holy Spirt, not realizing that it is the
Kundalini spirit... Have you ever delivered anyone from this horrible
spirit and is it hard?I have the cold sensations over my head, tingling, electrical
sensations going through my body, I can feel a serpent like
movement all over my back, I have this shaking when I pray, I feel
movement over my head, genitals, legs, etc, the list goes on and on.You may share my testimony because I have struggled with this
for many years and no one has been able to help me. I have done
some research on this spirit, and what I have found is the very
same thing that you have told me. I just recently visited a church
where they brought back the impartation of TODD BENTLEY and
passed it on to some people including me, not knowing what I
was getting into. All of these manifestations are present at his
services as well. I can feel it in my chest, on my back and it is a
horrible crawling serpent sensation..."(2) "I WAS DELIVERED" - 'Revival-Fire'
I have a recent testimony of deliverance that may be helpful to
some people.In 2003 I ended up in a Toronto Blessing type meeting, I was a
youthworker for a Christian organisation at the time. I had some
spiritual experiences during this season at the Toronto type church.
Something was transferred to me during this time. How do I know?During this season God had begun to work in the lives of the young
people I had been ministering to... After my Toronto meetings,
when I now shared at the youth groups spiritual phenomena began
to take place. Laughter broke out, some felt drunk, others would
feel like slumpling on the floor when I prayed. At the time I didn't
understand it, some of it concerned me, but I didn't want to quench
it if it was God. One thing that did concern me was that one of the
young people who got 'drunkenness' for a couple of days, wasn't
even saved.Anyway, I've always had a love for the word of God, good doctrine
and truth. Some of the things in the Toronto stuff never sat right
with me. I did think there where some new age influences. I did
relax on the manifestations though and I have laughed, shook,
jerked and 'whoooooaaaaahhhhhed' with the best of them. Since
that point I was a defender of 'Toronto'.When Lakeland kicked off I was hopeful, however having graduated
from theological college, I was now more 'skeptical' about healing
ministries. Don't get me wrong. I believe in healing, however mass
hype and hysteria and unsubstantiated claims caused me to be
wary. I began to research Lakeland, Bentley, etc... As I read the
articles, etc, I began to become more and more convinced that I
had allowed myself to come under a false spiritual environment.Having had hands laid on me by many Toronto people I began to
wonder about impartation and what I had received. One day while
out in the town some American Indians where doing some of their
Native Music on the streets. I stopped to listen and as I listened
I began to feel movement in my gut. The movement I felt was very
similar to what I would feel during times of 'praise and worship'.
I thought to myself, Why is my spirit being moved (in an enjoyable
way) by this pagan music? At this point I began to wonder about
what sort of spirits I had opened myself up to.Anyway, the 'new mystics' meeting that I ended up at last week
(I didn't know that is who they were) caused me to still feel that
something wasn't right. Although my eyes had been opened to
the deception, I still felt there was still a spiritual tie. I say this
because my 'sprit' would respond to what was happening in the
meeting at times even though it was obviously chaotic. Also
during worship some people came up while I was worshipping
and prayed for me. Again I felt that this wasn't good.The few days that followed this meeting where pretty awful
emotionally. I felt drained, down and depressed. I then remembered
that this is how I would often feel when I would come out of the
Toronto meetings. In those days I would interpret this as God
bringing negative stuff to the surface to deal with things. However
as this began to happen again I began to doubt that this was the
case. I also found it hard to pray and read the word.Anyway, while in bed, a few nights later, my wife was led to begin
to pray for me. As she was praying while laying hands on my
stomach she saw 'a little black thing'. However she noticed that
the little black thing was held tight and gripped by a fist. As she
prayed it left. She did not tell me this until the morning.After she had prayed I felt better, went to sleep and woke up the
next day much lighter. She then told me what she had seen.How I interpret it is like this: Through the laying on of hands and
opening myself up to a deception the enemy had got access.Recent events caused me to see the truth of the deception
regarding the spirit at work, my eyes where opened but there
was still a spiritual tie on the inside (probably due to transference).The fact that it was held tight by a fist caused me to belive that
the spirit had been 'bound' but that I had not been delivered.
Perhaps this binding of the spirit is what has caused me to see
the truth, however deliverance did not come until my wife prayed.
Anyway, ever since this experience I have found that a lot of
'things' have 'lifted off me'.(3) "A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE" - Debylynne
"'Revival-fire' - I found your post very interesting, especially when
you talked about the "responses" you would feel and sense in
yourself to things that you knew were not of God (ie. Indian music)
and how similar they were to what you "felt" in response to "god"
in these services. I have had the same experiences and it has
really troubled me. Even when I was watching the clips about the
Kundalini and I would "feel" myself begin to respond and "jerk"
and "twitch" and shake and I would turn it off immediately because
that rather "freaked me out". I have never been to Toronto, nor have
I had "direct" contact with anyone that has been there - but I have
watched the stuff on God TV and I have "laid hands" on the TV
screen to "receive" and I thought it was ALL of God.I have repented wholeheartedly, but I wonder if there is still
something on the inside of me that needs stronger action taken
against it. I have not had my husband pray for me concerning this,
but I believe that I WILL..."ANDREW RESPONDS: It is vital to understand that every
Christian believer has God-given authority over their own "temple"
so-to-speak. Yes - it is important to repent before God with true
"godly sorrow" if you have opened yourself up to these spirits. But
it is also vital to know that you can COMMAND these things to go
in the name of Jesus Christ! I often talk about "RENOUNCING"
things from the very depths of your being. It is not just with your
'mouth only'. You are rejecting and expelling these things with
every part of you - spirit, soul and body - in the mighty name of
Jesus Christ. And they WILL go!
The same applies to other areas of darkness in people's lives.
If you suffer from depression or a bad temper or any other form
of darkness that you can't seem to get rid of - COMMAND it gone
from the very depths of your being in Jesus' name! I refer to these
things as "strongholds" rather than 'demons'. And I have seen
people utterly delivered of things they thought were "ingrained" in
them - just by deeply and forcefully COMMANDING them gone
in the mighty name of Jesus. Try it! Don't delay. "The weapons of
our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling
down of strongholds" (2 Cor 10:4).God bless you all!
Andrew Strom.
Posted by: prophetic <prophetic@...>
3 TESTIMONIES Are BELOW:
(1) Geri McGhee writes:
I received the following email from a child of God who has been
victimized by "soaking" in what she was told was the Holy Spirit.
Perhaps, there are others of you who are being tormented after an
experience with what you thought was the Holy Spirit; when in
reality, you were taken captive by a demonic spirit(s)...
"Dear Geri: I remember going to some meetings where they
believed in all of this that you have mentioned in your message on
"soaking". I have experienced the shaking, tingling, electrical
sensation going through my body, along with various other things
that they said was the Holy Spirt, not realizing that it is the
Kundalini spirit... Have you ever delivered anyone from this horrible
spirit and is it hard?
I have the cold sensations over my head, tingling, electrical
sensations going through my body, I can feel a serpent like
movement all over my back, I have this shaking when I pray, I feel
movement over my head, genitals, legs, etc, the list goes on and on.
You may share my testimony because I have struggled with this
for many years and no one has been able to help me. I have done
some research on this spirit, and what I have found is the very
same thing that you have told me. I just recently visited a church
where they brought back the impartation of TODD BENTLEY and
passed it on to some people including me, not knowing what I
was getting into. All of these manifestations are present at his
services as well. I can feel it in my chest, on my back and it is a
horrible crawling serpent sensation..."
(2) "I WAS DELIVERED" - 'Revival-Fire'
I have a recent testimony of deliverance that may be helpful to
some people.
In 2003 I ended up in a Toronto Blessing type meeting, I was a
youthworker for a Christian organisation at the time. I had some
spiritual experiences during this season at the Toronto type church.
Something was transferred to me during this time. How do I know?
During this season God had begun to work in the lives of the young
people I had been ministering to... After my Toronto meetings,
when I now shared at the youth groups spiritual phenomena began
to take place. Laughter broke out, some felt drunk, others would
feel like slumpling on the floor when I prayed. At the time I didn't
understand it, some of it concerned me, but I didn't want to quench
it if it was God. One thing that did concern me was that one of the
young people who got 'drunkenness' for a couple of days, wasn't
even saved.
Anyway, I've always had a love for the word of God, good doctrine
and truth. Some of the things in the Toronto stuff never sat right
with me. I did think there where some new age influences. I did
relax on the manifestations though and I have laughed, shook,
jerked and 'whoooooaaaaahhhhhed' with the best of them. Since
that point I was a defender of 'Toronto'.
When Lakeland kicked off I was hopeful, however having graduated
from theological college, I was now more 'skeptical' about healing
ministries. Don't get me wrong. I believe in healing, however mass
hype and hysteria and unsubstantiated claims caused me to be
wary. I began to research Lakeland, Bentley, etc... As I read the
articles, etc, I began to become more and more convinced that I
had allowed myself to come under a false spiritual environment.
Having had hands laid on me by many Toronto people I began to
wonder about impartation and what I had received. One day while
out in the town some American Indians where doing some of their
Native Music on the streets. I stopped to listen and as I listened
I began to feel movement in my gut. The movement I felt was very
similar to what I would feel during times of 'praise and worship'.
I thought to myself, Why is my spirit being moved (in an enjoyable
way) by this pagan music? At this point I began to wonder about
what sort of spirits I had opened myself up to.
Anyway, the 'new mystics' meeting that I ended up at last week
(I didn't know that is who they were) caused me to still feel that
something wasn't right. Although my eyes had been opened to
the deception, I still felt there was still a spiritual tie. I say this
because my 'sprit' would respond to what was happening in the
meeting at times even though it was obviously chaotic. Also
during worship some people came up while I was worshipping
and prayed for me. Again I felt that this wasn't good.
The few days that followed this meeting where pretty awful
emotionally. I felt drained, down and depressed. I then remembered
that this is how I would often feel when I would come out of the
Toronto meetings. In those days I would interpret this as God
bringing negative stuff to the surface to deal with things. However
as this began to happen again I began to doubt that this was the
case. I also found it hard to pray and read the word.
Anyway, while in bed, a few nights later, my wife was led to begin
to pray for me. As she was praying while laying hands on my
stomach she saw 'a little black thing'. However she noticed that
the little black thing was held tight and gripped by a fist. As she
prayed it left. She did not tell me this until the morning.
After she had prayed I felt better, went to sleep and woke up the
next day much lighter. She then told me what she had seen.
How I interpret it is like this: Through the laying on of hands and
opening myself up to a deception the enemy had got access.
Recent events caused me to see the truth of the deception
regarding the spirit at work, my eyes where opened but there
was still a spiritual tie on the inside (probably due to transference).
The fact that it was held tight by a fist caused me to belive that
the spirit had been 'bound' but that I had not been delivered.
Perhaps this binding of the spirit is what has caused me to see
the truth, however deliverance did not come until my wife prayed.
Anyway, ever since this experience I have found that a lot of
'things' have 'lifted off me'.
(3) "A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE" - Debylynne
"'Revival-fire' - I found your post very interesting, especially when
you talked about the "responses" you would feel and sense in
yourself to things that you knew were not of God (ie. Indian music)
and how similar they were to what you "felt" in response to "god"
in these services. I have had the same experiences and it has
really troubled me. Even when I was watching the clips about the
Kundalini and I would "feel" myself begin to respond and "jerk"
and "twitch" and shake and I would turn it off immediately because
that rather "freaked me out". I have never been to Toronto, nor have
I had "direct" contact with anyone that has been there - but I have
watched the stuff on God TV and I have "laid hands" on the TV
screen to "receive" and I thought it was ALL of God.
I have repented wholeheartedly, but I wonder if there is still
something on the inside of me that needs stronger action taken
against it. I have not had my husband pray for me concerning this,
but I believe that I WILL..."
ANDREW RESPONDS: It is vital to understand that every
Christian believer has God-given authority over their own "temple"
so-to-speak. Yes - it is important to repent before God with true
"godly sorrow" if you have opened yourself up to these spirits. But
it is also vital to know that you can COMMAND these things to go
in the name of Jesus Christ! I often talk about "RENOUNCING"
things from the very depths of your being. It is not just with your
'mouth only'. You are rejecting and expelling these things with
every part of you - spirit, soul and body - in the mighty name of
Jesus Christ. And they WILL go!
The same applies to other areas of darkness in people's lives.
If you suffer from depression or a bad temper or any other form
of darkness that you can't seem to get rid of - COMMAND it gone
from the very depths of your being in Jesus' name! I refer to these
things as "strongholds" rather than 'demons'. And I have seen
people utterly delivered of things they thought were "ingrained" in
them - just by deeply and forcefully COMMANDING them gone
in the mighty name of Jesus. Try it! Don't delay. "The weapons of
our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling
down of strongholds" (2 Cor 10:4).
God bless you all!
Andrew Strom.