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RE: {GEAR} Taper wound strings WAS Can anyone explain this? [reply]

Posted by: cwstairs <cwstairs@...>

Is this possibly why, when using an electronic tuner, the pitch may
start out sharp when first plucked, waver up and down a bit, and then
settle in on one pitch, or is the tuner reading overtones that are not
quite right? Is this even possible?

I thought it might be the tuner (Sony, about $20) but they all (tried
3) seem to do that. How hard I plucked the string also affected how much
the pitch wavered off the desired pitch before "settling in" as the
vibrating string stopped vibrating. I am using "chromie" flatwounds,
longer and tapered for through the body bridge. On these strings, the
taper is well above the nut, and exist simply to accommodate connection
to the machines. The portion of the string from nut to bridge appears
anecdotally to be uniform.
Claude

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vanguard, but they must understand that there will always be different
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Morison [mailto:d.morison@ab.sac.ac.uk]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:41 AM
To: churchbass@welovegod.org
Subject: [CB] {GEAR} Taper wound strings WAS Can anyone explain this?

On 20 Nov 2003 at 13:07, Donl Mathis wrote:

> The math is much more straightforward when each section is the same
> weight, and is infinitely flexible, and is infinitely thin -- we end
> up with a fairly simple, clean motion on the string. But when
> different sections of the string are different masses, or different
> thicknesses, or different stiffnesses, then all of a sudden the motion
> is not so clean and regular, and instead of the string as a whole
> producing a nice, uniform wave, the wave becomes proportionately
> misshaped. As a specific example, if a section of the string is
> heavier, the wave that's forming will move slower as it passes through
> that section. The "slope" of the waveform there will be more gradual.
>
> If one end of the string was significantly different than the other,
> the "point of balance" in the string could shift.

All of which is exactly why I don't like taper wound bass strings - the
idea of having part of the string much thinner, lighter and more
flexible
than the rest just doesn't seem right to me. This has been borne out in
practice too - every time I've had tapers on my bass, the B string
harmonics in particular have been obnoxiously out of tune, rendering it
impossible to intonate at the 12th fret as normal, and effectively
unuseable above the 4th or 5th fret due to the weird overtones.
So for me, it's consistency all the way.
Cheers,
David.

David M. Morison
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